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What is a "good" reserve funding %? How to sanity check reserve studies? What to believe?

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ChrisS24 (California)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Hi friends --

Our building of ~20 units recently had a reserves study done, as required by law.

However, comparing this most recent study with one from a few years ago (and even comparing to what individuals on the board believe) about certain costs like elevator repair, roof repair, lifetimes, the $ figures are all over the place. Sometimes differing by 2x or more on how much some items cost to replace!

And of course that has huge implications for the reserve funded %, which people are disagreeing all over the place about what is a healthy or "good enough" funded %.

How do you come to a conclusion about what is enough reserve funding? Is 60% enough? 80%?

Do you take an average "believable" $ figure for how much things should cost, or need to get rough bids to validate what $ figure to put in for an elevator overhaul 10 years from now?

Thanks for any advice on these questions that few owners know or care about, yet when it comes time to pay the bill, everyone complains about!

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
A reserve account IMO is set up for avoiding a huge special assessment in the long run when a major capital item has to be replaced. The question think your asking is do you make the amount 100% of the expected expense or can you get away with 80% of the expected cost?

There may not be anything wrong with having a lower reserve account if it's understood that the percentage less of the overall expense will be a special assessment. So either you save up now and have the money covered or you decide to make up the difference.

Just understand a HOA is ONLY funded by it's members FOR it's members. So it's your HOA/Members choice if they want to be fully reserved or plan to special assess when the time comes. I am for fully reserved for various reasons. However, there may also be a reasons why not to have a full reserve. The HOA can decide.

Former HOA President
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Chris,
The reserve studies I have seen are pretty detailed with life expectancies over the next 20 years. It should also give you the %s over that time frame. The boards job is to make sure it is be funded properly based on the professionals advise. What I have always done is look at the chart of the items that are expected to need to be done the next 2 or 3 years some things need to be moved up and replaced earlier and some can last longer than expected.

I think based on your HOAs age 70% to 80% funded is a safe place to be. The bottom line is 100% of your assets will not fail at the same time unless some Act of God strikes or natural disaster.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Suggestions:

* Check the assumptions. The company doing the study should have spelled out what assumptions they used to project future costs (eg., projected inflation rate). Are these assumptions reasonable, or do you have some basis for disagreeing with some of them?

* Make sure that all of the necessary items were included. A study that came back surprisingly low may have missed something.

* Put everything into a spreadsheet showing projected spending by year for the next thirty years. Then add a column for projected levels of your reserve funds. Do you see a shortfall in there anywhere?

* Finally, the nature of your community will determine how much wiggle room you have. A condo community with private streets, multi-story buildings with elevators and a number of amenities has fewer options to delay spending than a small HOA with detached homes on a public street whose only amenity is some green space.

Many view being fully funded as a requirement. Personally I don't agree. I think that the money needs to be available when you need it (hence the spreadsheet exercise). Being fully funded means having money on hand that you probably won't need for 20 years. In a low interest rate environment, it makes less sense to have money not working for you.

But not being fully funded also means taking some level of risk. You may need the money earlier than projected. Or inflation may pick up, which means that the future costs were under-estimated. Or some unexpected event makes a previous assumption inaccurate.

Reserve studies are all about trying to estimate future expenses as accurately as you can. Laying out all of this stuff in a spreadsheet will allow you to tweak things and re-calculate based on new info. I try to get my spreadsheet to reflect reality as closely as possible, allowing for a cushion of some sort, rather than aiming for an arbitrary percentage.

KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Hi Chris,

Your goal should be 100% full funding, however, in reality, your Reserve Fund will take in revenue, climb upwards towards 100% funding, then require some spending to maintain your property.
There a few ways to feel "believable" about Reserve Funding and all sorts of accounting philosophies.

My common sense "feelings" are this:

You're in pretty good shape if you can pay cash for the next big project THAT IS PLANNED (example: New roof) and still maintain enough cash should a formerly planned upgrade require immediate attention due to unplanned/unexpected catastrophe.

You're in "OK/Meh" shape if you have enough cash in Reserves to pay for planned upgrades, on schedule, and still hold a minimum amount of Reserves after the project is complete that, as you build reserves towards the next scheduled project, you have cash-in-hand for Project #2 AND that minimum savings amount. Under this scenario, which HOAs do practice, there is no leeway for multiple failures of Reserve items.

Money flows in and out of Reserve Funds so reaching 100% is merely a guidepost. If you don't conduct any property maintenance and save your Reserves, you'll have "Full Funding" but a huge and hidden deferred maintenance expense that will eat the money up.

Yes, it's complicated but it's refreshing to see you care about Reserves.

ChrisS24 (California)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Thanks for all these replies!

Well our situation is the following:

-- We generally operate on the yearly plan to contribute enough from the operating fund (revenue from owner monthly normal assessments) to the reserves fund, which is designed to have enough $ in it for the ongoing expected $ value of capital expenses at any time.

I.e. every year you sock away the right $ amount from your owners' contributions to have the savings account be able to pay for the time-averaged capital repairs, etc. that will be needed. In other words, if all goes according to expected lifetimes and costs of replacement, you shouldn't need any special assessments.

*However*... our past leadership has not been acting well in terms of 2 things:

-- Unplanned capital items have been spent on, depleting some of reserves $ unexpectedly

-- Proper yearly $ transfers from the operating fund were not made to the reserves as planned

So the state of the reserves is not clear / much lower than it needs to be.

The question for us is, "what % does it need to be?"

And add on top of that the confusing situation that various studies and various people have different opinions about not only what the funding % should be, but whether the component lifetimes and cost $ to replace are "reasonable".

So it's a puzzle that we're slowly trying to work our way down the list of all the components to get to a clear answer at least of the state of the building.... if not the question of what should the % be..

It's so complicated!
ChrisS24 (California)
Posts: 14
Posted:
I'll also add 2 points:

1. Our building is now 18 years old, so a lot of things are coming "ripe" for replacement which is why it gets all the more important lately to address this.

and

2. I think part of the philosophy is that if you are correctly assessing owners the time-averaged expected $ needed to replace equipment, every year, then they share the burden across time equally. If you wait until a major thing breaks and didn't have enough saved up, you more directly put the $ burden on those owners who happened to own right at that time, rather than the people before who should've been paying all along. (assuming some people sold, came/left, etc)

So it is our gut feeling that something like 60-80% is reasonable, but 100% would probably not be achievable without big increases in normal assessments.

But we need to get the picture clear first. I did do some laying out in Excel of the yearly expenditures based on the lifetimes of equipment, etc. so hopefully that can help to show what things influence the $ calculations the most.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Chris

The starting point is a Reserve Study which should layout lifetime of something and cost to replace when it needs replacement. Example:

Roof Replacement, $600K, needed in 2031. $60K per year is set aside in a Roofing Reserve Fund. At the end of 5 years there will be $300K. Some will say it is 100% funded as it is on track at $60K per year. Others will say it is only 50% funded. Also major items cost should be reviewed every 3 to 5 years.

Some break down their Reserves in sub categories, others do not. I think it is wise to have sub categories. If the budget shows one lump sum then it should reference the Reserve Study which should show it broken down into categories. Makes it easier to "see" where one stands for down the road expenses.

Our Yearly Forecasted Budget shows two Reserve Line Items. Roofing Reserves and General Reserves. We have no amenities, public streets, public sewage/water so little need for further breakdown. We are responsible for each homes sprinkler system and fencing but we carry those two items as Operating Expenses as they are in consistent need of repair/replacement. Not saying this is the best/proper way to handle it but it is how we do.

Not setting money aside (Reserves) is one of the main failures of a good many associations with the answers being an increase in yearly assessment (Dues), Special Assessment, or let the place rot.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Sounds like your Board, Chris is doing some serious thinking and planning.

Visit the Davis-stirling.com website copied by CA HOA attorneys. They have an excellent section on reserves. The also have links to other resources. They may have a chart on the chances of having to levy a special assessment depending on your % funded. I think at around 70%, the chance of a special assessment is only 3-5%. We're about 75% funded now and are quite comfortable with that.

If your study was done by a certified reserve specialist or analyst, I think you can be confident that their estimates of useful life, remaining useful life, cost to replace are accurate. We're an elevator high rise on the coast, so our rooftop equipment has a shorter estimated life than HOAs in inland drier climates. Our reserve specialist always uses us to be 100% funded--I think they all do.

We're also 20 years old, but many components have been replaced over time as not every component has an estimated life of 20 or 30 years. Our common area heat pumps, for instance, need to be replaced more often. Many kinds of valves do too.

We've been able to persuade the reserve analyst to extend the the RUL for some components. Our $4,000 billiard table only had a 15 year estimated life, but we replaced the felt and pockets and it still looks great after 20 years. One reason is that it gets light use.

It IS the Board's responsibility to set your annual contributions to reserves not the membership, as you do seem to know.

MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
First, having to do a special assessment to fund the reserve account or a capital project identified in the reserve study is one sign of poor financial management. Banks don't look kindly on special assessment, especially ones that have to fund a reserves.

That being said, properly funding reserves, based on the calculations set forth in a reserve study is difficult with only 20 units, (less pain to divide amongst). Your biggest expenses are going to be roofs and elevators. Can you get figures all over the place, yes. Unfortunately, most boards I have come across have no idea how to use a reserve study. Worse, they have no idea if the numbers are accurate or not. There are some good reserve companies that are "certified" and there are some that just do canned reports.

The percentage should be 100%. An example, let's say your roof were to cost $600K and its lifetime use is 30 years, and your are 20 years old, that would mean you have 10 years remaining. Each year, $20K should be going in just for the roofs and at 20 years you have $400K in reserves set aside exclusively for the roofs, you would be considered 100% funded.

I handled the reserves while I was on my board. We had a rather large community, with a large number of components in a study. We also managed a reserve account with $1.5M with different banking institutions. There is a science to managing reserves. Being 70-75% funded might be fine, but make sure you have a backup plan if an emergency arises.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Posted By ChrisS24 on 03/12/2021 1:27 PM
But we need to get the picture clear first. I did do some laying out in Excel of the yearly expenditures based on the lifetimes of equipment, etc. so hopefully that can help to show what things influence the $ calculations the most.

I do something similar because we have skip years in our Painting cycle and because our Tree expenditures are discretionary in the sense that we can spend $0 or tens of thousands depending on our readiness to take on new projects. Both of these expenses come out of our Operating account.

Most reserve study specialists seem to want equal payments each year. So I use the spreadsheet to vary the reserve contribution each year to adjust for the variability in our expected operating expenses.

I'm just wondering what the purpose of your separate spreadsheet is. Didn't your reserve study lay out a lot of the stuff you are talking about here?

If you are modifying amounts of reserve expenditures in your spreadsheet because of opinions by others, I wonder why any quotes you had weren't provided to the reserve specialist. If you disagreed with useful lives, shouldn't that have been discussed with the reserve specialist. When I say you I don't mean you personally. There's just something missing in the discussion as I see it. Why are you making charts that IMO should have been part of the reserve study.

You seem to be a well intentioned individual having to face a horde of people with all kinds of attitudes about reserves. It that's the case, here's a publication that could be useful to circulate:

https://foundation.caionline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bprs.pdf

Just my thoughts. Take em or leave em.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Check for any State law that requires a minimum percentage. I believe here in Nevada an HOA reserve fund must be at least 85%.

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