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KarenC29 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
We are a Delaware community of about 250 mostly vacation townhomes built in the 60's. We currently have one cluster mailbox in the community for the handful of year-round residents. I don't know when it was installed or who paid for it. The cluster mailbox is full and a homeowner is demanding the HOA pay for an additional mailbox to be installed. Our governing documents do not say anything about mailboxes. In the absence of specific rule from the USPS or a federal or local law, I think the homeowners who require mail service should pay to install the box rather than using HOA funds to benefit just a few owners. Does such a law exist? Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? Thanks!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
I would see it as a common element because it would be on common area.

Do you need a new box because there are new addresses who don't have a mail box or do you need a new box because the current sized boxes are considered too small (not holding all the mail) by the owners?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
A HOA is ONLY funded by it's members FOR it's members. Mailbox clusters are HOA property. Or common property/use. Your HOA has to buy it. Now the USPS may offer a resource to purchase a cluster mailbox. I would contact them for advice and approval. There are certain standards mailboxes must meet. So I would consult them for the best resource for this information.

Former HOA President
KarenC29 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
We need a new box because there are no empty boxes available in our current box. I think it is a cluster box with about 12 boxes. I have heard conflicting information about installing an additional box: that the HOA has to pay for it, that the HOA has to pay for the concrete pad and the post office will pay for the box, that the residents who want it have to pay for it since it doesn't benefit the whole community, that it is up to whatever the governing docs say (ours are silent as to this). I am just trying to find an official USPS written policy or a state, local, or federal law that clarifies who is responsible for bearing the cost of installation. We received a quote of $1200 but I have a hard time justifying spending that for one resident if we are not legally required to do so.
ND (PA)
Posts: 792
Posted:
I find it interesting that you have 250 homes and not 250 mailboxes. In theory, you need to allow for the possibility of your entire complex to consist of year-round residents. However, if it's always been obvious that no where near 250 mailboxes are needed, then I suppose I understand how you arrived at the present situation. After all, why buy, install, maintain mailboxes that will never be utilized? So the present situation makes sense too.

All that said, I agree with other posters so far that cluster box units (CBUs) would be a common expense, paid for out of HOA funds intended for the benefit of all homeowners. So I would disagree with the thought that just because someone new requires use of a mailbox that exceeds your current capacity by 1, that they would be solely responsible for purchase and installation of the next CBU (at a cost of likely thousands of dollars). Why would all the current CBU-users benefit from use of the already-installed CBU and this individual be responsible for purchasing another unit all by themself? If anything, all CBU-users should contribute equally to purchasing a 2nd until if that is deemed necessary.

Perhaps instead of installing an additional CBU, there are add-on kits or something where you can add ony a few more mailboxes that can be added to your existing CBU at a much-reduced cost. Something to look into for your HOA.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
In my HOA, the mailboxes are owned and maintained by the USPS. Visit your local post office and talk with the superintendent. Maybe they can get you some additional mailboxes and some parcel boxes.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
I have never encountered a HOA where the mailboxes or mailbox clusters are owned and maintained by the USPS. In every instance where there are mailboxes or clusters they are owned and maintained by the HOA, but under federal regulations. In the OP's case I would look at your reserve study. IF, the HOA is responsible, there would be a line item for their expense.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Karen

I am confused. You say you presently have one mailbox cluster with 12 mailboxes but yet 250 homes. How did that happen? 12 mailboxes 250 homes?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Max is right as are other who say the HOA is responsible. The HOA installed the original and is should have been placed on the reserve study so it could repaired/replaced or in your case, Karen, expanded some day. Check your reserve study.

There are many common area items that I don't use here, the billiards table, for example, but I still chip in with my dues to replace/repair it some day. The HOA needs handle the CBU.
KarenC29 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
There are 12 mailboxes for 250 homes because only 1 or 2 people live there year-round. For the rest of us it is a second vacation home or rental. If we need to get mail while there, the post office in town will hold it and you have to go pick it up. Other people have PO boxes in town. There is no mention of mailboxes in the reserves or budget. I do agree that under normal circumstances in more typical neighborhoods, it would be the responsibility of the HOA. However, I don't know that the responsibility would apply in our situation. To get this expenditure approved, I think I need official guidance from the USPS or a law that clearly says the HOA is responsible. This group can be very tight-fisted If anyone can point me to something official online, I would be very grateful! I have not been able to find anything on my own.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Pretty sure there is no law, Karen. We just replaced one of our clusters--about 100 mailboxes, but I don't know the process our Property mgr. went through.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
I think common sense has to be applied here. Being that there is only one or two year round residents, they get first priority. The other 10 are on a lottery system, or rent them out to the non residents.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Karen

I say the developer should have installed a mailbox per home, but it is a little late for that. How did/do the 12 mail boxes get assigned? Could the assignment be changed so that 12 go to those that maintain the place as their full time address? It would be easy enough to have someone prove it is their full time residence.

Otherwise, simply ignore the requestor.
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
Posted:
This is an interesting topic. I did some searching and found the following excerpt. It came from https://nahbnow.com/2019/05/nahb-expresses-concerns-over-cluster-mailboxes/

"The U.S. Postal Service now requires cluster mailboxes for all new developments. ... Since 2012, the Postal Service has expressed preference for centralized delivery service, typically to cluster mailbox units. In practice though, this change has resulted in a de facto mandate for new construction across the nation.May 1, 2019"

I couldn't find the answer to does an owner have a right to receive US Postal service to a facility that is already on the postal service's route. They may not. If this is the case then KarenC29's community should at the very least make it very clear that they may not be able to receive mail there. Maybe in the rules?

I also wondered if certain types of handicapped people that can't drive could insist on being a mailbox?
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
It sounds as though the HOA would be responsible for covering this common expense since it is a common element. If owners were expected to have their own mailboxes, that would be a different story, but since it's a cluster mailbox, the association should cover the costs.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
Posted:
Our Association is responsible for the mailboxes.

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