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Posted By MikeB23 on 03/08/2021 3:58 PM
Question. When talking about liens and foreclosures shouldn't the mortgage status be included? I know we have an owner who habitually doesn't pay dues. We have liened and sued and won a judgement. Before we began foreclosure the bank holding the mortgage paid off the judgement.
We are currently at the beginning of the process again. The Board contacted the bank holding the mortgage and asked what they wanted to do and they said they would let us know after we filed the lien.
Our experience was quite different. Owner was gone. Hired a lawyer to reach out to mortgage holder. Took lawyer weeks to find the right contact person. Two weeks later, the mortgage holder sold the mortgage to another bank. Wasted money on a worthless pursuit.
The big unknown is whether the owner has any equity in the house. Public records will tell you how much was borrowed but not how much is owed. You only find out after the bank forecloses or the owner files for bankruptcy and provides the bankruptcy court with the required schedules (which is often not done).
There are so many State variations to the foreclosure process that it's nearly impossible to speak in general terms.
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Some states like mine give super-lien priority for some number of months to debts owed to the HOA. In our case, it's 6 months. If we wait until the bank forecloses, then we recover 6 months of fees including our legal fees. But if we take action first, then the bank can wait until after our legal costs are no longer within the 6-month lookback period. So if we want to collect legal fees, we are better off waiting until after the bank files.
Some states allow non-judicial foreclosures. Other don't. Same with redemption rights by the owner.
Some mortgage documents include Confessions of Judgment clauses, Debt Acceleration clauses, Assignment of Rent clauses, etc. These can cut off rights for other creditors like your HOA.
So yes, there are many factors that need to be considered, the costs of debt recovery are difficult to predict, and this is not a DIY project.
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Other Experience - We have been able to get a default judgment against personal property up to the statutory limit, but those judgments are not good against real estate in PA. We went as far as having a Sheriff's sale scheduled on the owner's truck and other personal property. The owner paid up. But then the process started all over again.
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