MichaelaG (Georgia)
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Posts: 27
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I can't find my old thread, as I wanted to add on to it as an update. This will likely get long, as I'm trying to convey the intricacies. Since nobody is stepping up, I'm seriously considering taking over as HOA president, just to cover my own butt, because if it dissolves we're much worse. None of our properties could be sold, because the dam needs major work and the HOA is broke. And if it breaks we'll all get sued and will likely loose our houses. There's no insurance and our personal insurances wouldn't cover, because it's neglect.
I bought a house in a lake community in Georgia 2 years ago. I didn't know there was an HOA and I've learned that I'm now part of a huge mess and am trying to get this straightened out. The president of the HOA told me that the HOA has no money, because most people (20 owners that share the lake) aren't paying in and there's no way to enforce it. I have told him that there must be legal ways etc. He said he had no documents. I then tried to recreate everything and go the original LLC paperwork from the secretary of state and the deeds where the lake portions were deeded to the llc/HOA. I offered to sit down with him and give him everything and he said that he never told me that he doesn't have paperwork. I insisted that he did or why would I have otherwise spent hours in the courthouse pulling those documents together. He then said that I called him a liar and he doesn't want me in the HOA and give me back my dues. He also sent a letter to the active members (8 of us) stating that one of the members called him a liar and he would reimburse them and they would no longer be part of the HOA. That was January 2020
January 2021 (never responded to him in any way this past year) he sent a letter that he wants to step down and if someone would like to take over, he'd share whatever he has and what needs to be done. And that we should probably have a meeting, maybe via zoom. A month went by and I finally had enough. Googled some more and came up with the Georgia Property owner Association act, which specifies that we can set liens etc. Our original LLC paperwork specifies nothing. He claimed he has nothing that allows to place liens.
So, what I'm now thinking is that a 2/3rd vote of the voting members (6 votes out of 8) would allow us to adopt the Georgia Property owners Association Act as our governing law. I think we could get that vote. I actually printed it out 8 times and included it with a letter to those active members, stating that we could create a business plan, with the objective of getting a loan or credit line to clean up the lake and fix the dam, with the lake as security. Then create a special assessment to be paid by 20 home owners. Those that won't pay will get liens against their properties, which then can get auctioned off and repay the loan.
2 of the members called me. 1 of them is sort of a friend with the president and he's been trying to get him to call back and he won't. Wednesday morning I sent an email to the president, suggesting that we'll put ego aside and work together to get this straightened out. We don't have to like each other, but we're on the same side. I offered my big deck as meeting place for this weekend, where everyone can stay more than 6' apart and wear a mask. No response. That other member friend again tried to get him to to discuss with him, but president won't call him back.
Sooooo, what would you do in my place? I'd really prefer to not be on the board, because my plan is to be a back-up buyer for the liens, since Georgia HOA liens aren't super liens and I don't know how many companies buy them, since they're not like tax liens. I don't want to have to do that, but I feel it's a good back=up plan and if I'm part of the HOA that would be a conflict of interest. Or if I step up to become president and forego being the back-up buyer of those liens, I guess the HOA could then be the one foreclosing. Not fun, but in the real world, everyone would pay their share of dues and this forum wouldn't even be necessary.
I know nothing about running an HOA and I doubt the president would explain anything to me, as it seems to be a personal issue between us and ego is in the way. Where would I go to find out what needs to be done? Supposedly secretary and treasurer stepped down last year and there's only 1 person. I'm not a detail person and I suck at paperwork and accounting. It's the stuff that I hate most in life lol. I know nothing about lakes and what needs to be done. I even tried to get a company to get me a quote on what needs to be done with the dam, but they charge for an estimate and the HOA has no money to pay for that. And we need that to even try to get a loan for that work. So, that would probably have to come out of my pocket. I don't know if it costs 30K or 300K.
What would you do and where would you start? I've already been in contact with my Legal shield lawyer and she's ready to help, but of course that's beyond the legal shield membership and would have to come out of my pocket.
I bought a house in a lake community in Georgia 2 years ago. I didn't know there was an HOA and I've learned that I'm now part of a huge mess and am trying to get this straightened out. The president of the HOA told me that the HOA has no money, because most people (20 owners that share the lake) aren't paying in and there's no way to enforce it. I have told him that there must be legal ways etc. He said he had no documents. I then tried to recreate everything and go the original LLC paperwork from the secretary of state and the deeds where the lake portions were deeded to the llc/HOA. I offered to sit down with him and give him everything and he said that he never told me that he doesn't have paperwork. I insisted that he did or why would I have otherwise spent hours in the courthouse pulling those documents together. He then said that I called him a liar and he doesn't want me in the HOA and give me back my dues. He also sent a letter to the active members (8 of us) stating that one of the members called him a liar and he would reimburse them and they would no longer be part of the HOA. That was January 2020
January 2021 (never responded to him in any way this past year) he sent a letter that he wants to step down and if someone would like to take over, he'd share whatever he has and what needs to be done. And that we should probably have a meeting, maybe via zoom. A month went by and I finally had enough. Googled some more and came up with the Georgia Property owner Association act, which specifies that we can set liens etc. Our original LLC paperwork specifies nothing. He claimed he has nothing that allows to place liens.
So, what I'm now thinking is that a 2/3rd vote of the voting members (6 votes out of 8) would allow us to adopt the Georgia Property owners Association Act as our governing law. I think we could get that vote. I actually printed it out 8 times and included it with a letter to those active members, stating that we could create a business plan, with the objective of getting a loan or credit line to clean up the lake and fix the dam, with the lake as security. Then create a special assessment to be paid by 20 home owners. Those that won't pay will get liens against their properties, which then can get auctioned off and repay the loan.
2 of the members called me. 1 of them is sort of a friend with the president and he's been trying to get him to call back and he won't. Wednesday morning I sent an email to the president, suggesting that we'll put ego aside and work together to get this straightened out. We don't have to like each other, but we're on the same side. I offered my big deck as meeting place for this weekend, where everyone can stay more than 6' apart and wear a mask. No response. That other member friend again tried to get him to to discuss with him, but president won't call him back.
Sooooo, what would you do in my place? I'd really prefer to not be on the board, because my plan is to be a back-up buyer for the liens, since Georgia HOA liens aren't super liens and I don't know how many companies buy them, since they're not like tax liens. I don't want to have to do that, but I feel it's a good back=up plan and if I'm part of the HOA that would be a conflict of interest. Or if I step up to become president and forego being the back-up buyer of those liens, I guess the HOA could then be the one foreclosing. Not fun, but in the real world, everyone would pay their share of dues and this forum wouldn't even be necessary.
I know nothing about running an HOA and I doubt the president would explain anything to me, as it seems to be a personal issue between us and ego is in the way. Where would I go to find out what needs to be done? Supposedly secretary and treasurer stepped down last year and there's only 1 person. I'm not a detail person and I suck at paperwork and accounting. It's the stuff that I hate most in life lol. I know nothing about lakes and what needs to be done. I even tried to get a company to get me a quote on what needs to be done with the dam, but they charge for an estimate and the HOA has no money to pay for that. And we need that to even try to get a loan for that work. So, that would probably have to come out of my pocket. I don't know if it costs 30K or 300K.
What would you do and where would you start? I've already been in contact with my Legal shield lawyer and she's ready to help, but of course that's beyond the legal shield membership and would have to come out of my pocket.