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MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
We have filed a legal complaint against our HOA. Our attorney has told us (there are 7 families)we have a very strong case. There is a NC supreme court case that is almost the same as ours. In the lower court the Judge quoted it..the HOA appealed and now we are in the higher court. We are getting ready for a motions hearing and our attorney would like to make a motion for a judicial settlement conference. It is my understanding that we will not have to pay the Judge and the results are non binding..we live in VA. Has anyone else had any experience with this?
Thanks,
MaryN
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

MaryN,

I believe that you have the wrong website to air your grievances. This site is for Board members and officers of an association where we can attempt to answer questions for each other inorder to run better associations . We help with statutes, rules and document understandings and your post does not address any of these situations. I suggest that you try another site. Sorry, Thank You
JakeS (South Carolina)
Posts: 24
Posted:
Mary N
As president of an HOA I appreciate your post. It is important for me to look at situations from the homeowner perspective. I do not have the answer to your question but I am glad to see that bad HOA boards are being challenged because there are many untrained, unqualifed board members who are control freeks with personal agendas.
MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
Jake,
Thank you. I've posted for almost a year. The attorney we(1/3 of the lot owners)are using was recommended by someone from this site. They are CAI attorneys. We've been thru the lower court and the Judge made a ruling against the HOA. He was very nice and spent almost 2 hours trying to explain to the HOA that they didn't have the power to do what they had done..the Board appealed his actions. They were very defiant and told the Judge that he didn't know what he was talking about. Trust me he did! An attorney is really necessary when one goes to the higher court. We were advised to file a complaint for injunctive relief and summary judgement. We did just that. As part of that action the property owners were notified, by us, when a "waiver" was sent to each one. It was at this point that they finally notified the property owners. Until that point most of the property owners had no idea about ANY court action. We have spent thousands of dollars and no one seems to know how much money..or where it is coming from for the HOA to pay the legal bills. We love our community..and have tried to work with the structure of the HOA. We tried to run for office...and held the minority position on the board..and the majority(3)would meet on the street..send mailouts..and then tell the Pres and Director what they had done. Needless to say...there were resignations...now they hold 100% of the positions because they were able to appoint the replacements. Believe me if there were another option we would have taken it. We are middle class folk and the money we are spending could and should have been used for something else. We have a very strong position..they have a very weak defense. So far I am the only one considering the avenue of a judicial settlement conference..and didn't mean to offend anyone with my post...just looking for information...and I've always been able to find good information on this site.
Thanks,
MaryN
JaneK (California)
Posts: 175
Posted:
DonnaS,
Board member or not, you should be listening to comments from anyone in an HOA, it will help you run a better association. Considering your attitude, I wouldn't want you on my board! I want someone who listens to homeowners.

Court cases should be of interest, you never know when you'll be the one sued.
Jane
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 603
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JaneK on 10/24/2007 3:48 PM
DonnaS,
Board member or not, you should be listening to comments from anyone in an HOA, it will help you run a better association. Considering your attitude, I wouldn't want you on my board! I want someone who listens to homeowners.

Court cases should be of interest, you never know when you'll be the one sued.
Jane

I believe DonnaS was simply trying to help promote our posting rules, one of which is, "Topics from individual homeowners, who are not acting as association volunteers, are not addressed here & may be removed.".

The rule is there to prevent this site from filling with negative rants and non-constructive complaints like you see on other HOA discussion websites. In this case, I don't belive this topic is going in that direction and may be educational for some members, so it can stay.

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TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
First, let me say I’m sorry your HOA is contesting your victory.

Second, I don’t have much to add but if you go on line and type in “summary judgment” you will find many hits that should be helpful in defining the process. Alternately you could ask your attorney for clarification of the process. After all you are paying for the service. Your attorney has an obligation to explain the process to your satisfaction.

From what I understand, summary judgment is where a judge will review the case, both sides (in your situation including the lower court decision) and rule which side has merit. Considering you have come this far I think that your attorney is looking for your best interest rather than going with the flow of the appeal.

Good luck.
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
Mary,

I'm glad it's worked out so far. Here's the info on the judicial settlement program in VA:

http://www.courts.state.va.us/jsc/home.html

For those who don't need the detail level Mary does, here's the short version:

In an effort to expand dispute resolution options for litigants, the judicial system has developed a unique Judicial Settlement Conference program for Circuit Court cases that combines aspects of facilitative mediation with judicial settlement techniques. Although the Judicial Settlement Conference has been available to Circuit Courts for many years pursuant to Supreme Court Rule 1:19, many courts have not utilized this due to insufficient time and resources. The Norfolk Circuit Court has however, for the past few years, brought retired Circuit Court Judges in to conduct settlement conferences in complex cases. The Norfolk program has been very successful in settling cases that would take multiple days to try and in reducing the court's docket.

The new, hybrid Judicial Settlement Conference program began on November 6-7, 2003 when a group of retired Circuit Court Judges were trained in mediation and settlement conference skills. U.S. Magistrate Judge Karen Klein from North Dakota and U.S. Magistrate Judge William Cassady from Alabama conducted the 16-hour training which was held at the Supreme Court building in Richmond. These judges are available to all Circuit courts to provide settlement conference services at no cost to the parties. Parties referred to settlement conference may select any judge from this list of trained settlement judges to handle their matter. To date there have been over 600 referrals to the Judicial Settlement Conference program.

While the retired judges conducting settlement conferences are compensated in the same fashion as when recalled to active status, and technically in recalled status, they have no trial authority with regard to a given case, but merely assist the parties in assessing their case and possibly reaching settlement. In addition, the retired judge maintains confidentiality with respect to the settlement conference proceedings and only reports to the referring court the terms of the agreement, if authorized by the parties, or the fact that no agreement was reached.

In an effort to support the increased level of referral of cases to the Judicial Settlement Conference program, a second training was held on March 2-3, 2005 in which additional retired Circuit Court judges were provided mediation and settlement skills training. U.S. Magistrate Judge Karen Klein and U.S. Magistrate Judge William Cassady again provided the training.

This program has opened new options for the circuit courts and litigants. Feedback from lawyers on exit surveys indicates that they appreciate the benefit of having an experienced judge with significant expertise facilitate the settlement of their case. Furthermore, they enjoy retaining more ability to control and craft a settlement, which is acceptable to them or, if not, proceed to trial. This has been an excellent process for reducing docket congestion while ensuring the prospects of a quality outcome. Finally, this program has offered retired judges an additional opportunity to stay active, to use the skills developed as a judge, and to develop new skills in facilitating settlements.

Joe

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MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
Joe,
Thank you so much. I have looked at that page. We have decided not to pursue it at this point. It was a joint decision ours and our attorney. We love our attorneys, and trust their judgement. The option was given to us because the legal bills are mounting and we could save some money.
For the record, we have always volunteered and helped in any way with our HOA. We have just gotten caught in a situation with a BOD that will not listen to lawyers and judges..and this was the only course left to take. Believe me I would rather be spending the money on a wonderful vacation..but we love our community and want to make things right.
Will keep you posted as we progress..
MaryN

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