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DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
My association appears to have finally agreed to get insurance and I am getting the info for them. I know we want directors and officers insurance and liability on the common areas. I add that we are 12 lot owners with a runway for aircraft. We are located in NW Georgia. Is there any other insurance I should be looking for? And can anyone recommend who to contact in Georgia or the Chattanooga area as we are only an hour south of Chattanooga.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
DianeW from Florida,
Asking about insurance in Chattanooga area somewhere with a runway for aircraft.

Are you a condo? If you are a condo, you will have to insure all buildings and all common property. Single family, all common property. I would caution taking out some kind of group insurance for units, since their are only 12 units. If you have a Board and pay dues and handle money or the board has to take any legal action, you need to insure against actions by the Board, any actions.

A reputable insurance agent could tell you much better than I.

Now, if there happens to be a lot of air traffic from Columbia, S.A. or Mexico, I would sell out and leave or if John Travolta wants to buy a unit, I would make him lenghten the Runway. Also, stay away from the CIA.
DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
This is not a condo development - 12 private lots with 4 current owners of homes and the other lots sold but undeveloped.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Diane,
Don't make me pull it out of you, are you an association, what kind, is the developer still involved, be you have an elected Board, etc, etc
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
DianeW: Your offical documents themselves should address the issue of insurance to cover Board/members; perhaps it also states insurance for association overall.

Even if the association carries insurance as a whole, the individual unit owners should also be covered for their own personal insurance, especially due to the fact that you have a runway and aircraft.
DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
So sorry I didn't elaborate. In any event, the developer turned over the community to the POA a little over one year ago. We have elected officers. We are not incorporated yet but are working with a lawyer to finalize the incorporation and the bylaws. The developer also owns a hangar-only lot, all the other lots are or will be sfd. I really don't know what other information you need. I need to get estimates on D&O insurance and liability insurance for the Board to present to the homeowners. I would like to know if that is all I need and if there is a local place anyone can recommend.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Deane, you have the key two policies identified. Is the runway on common area? If so and it requires maintenance talk to your insurance agent about workermans comp and possibly an umbrella.
DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
To PaulM: I realize we need insurance and it has taken me an entire year to get the board to even allow me to pursue the issue. The bylaws that were just given to us as a prelim to address insurance but are so legalize that no one understands what they are saying. I have had an entire year to impress to everyone how important insurance is so now I have their attention, I want to do this correctly. I certainly would think everyone would have their own insurance and we intend to get an umbrella policy as well.

Roger B: The runway and a pond are on common areas and these are my primary reasons for encouraging the other landowners to get HOA insurance. We are doing maintenance, mowing, ourselves, in order to avoid the workmen's comp issues. So do you think an umbrella in addition to D&O and common area liability is a good thing? Obviously I don't want to run the cost up so much to each of the 12 owners that they end up turning it down like they did a year ago.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
DianeW,

The information you sent is helpful. I would suggest that if the developer is still listed as a property owner you need to turn this over to an attorney. If anywhere in your Documents the "Declarent" is used you meed to have this checked. You say the property was turned over to the HOA a year ago. Have your documents been ammended to reflect this. Has the "Declarant" been taken out? Maybe all is well and you are comfortable with your laws but normally they are so convoluted it is hard to understand, especially if they were developed for the Developer "Declarant." The insurance thing, as has been noted should be handled by an agent, you will have to end up there anyway. Go over your requirements with any agent, then comparison shop. I, for one would he hesitant about suggesting ang like that on this site. On the left side of this screen you will note some sponsors ads, they would be an excellent place to start. On the discussion Topics page in the upper right hand side of paper, is a search block, try that with "Hoa Insurance". Ther are all kinds of links on this site. I do not believe someone is going to post from around North Georgia. Are you near Sky Valley, I know someone that lives there, but they are out of country till 1st Nov. He is an ex=banker and knows all about that Sky Valley area.

You have lots of home work to do.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Diane, whether or not to have an umbrella depends on how much coverage your Board thinks is enough. For trhe HOAs we manage about 40% chose to have an umbrella. Most do not have workmans comp and it appears you do not. One I forgot to mention is fidelity (theft insurance).
NancyD1 (Florida)
Posts: 447
Posted:
Dianne,

Call the FAA and ask about the guidelines for insurance for a private airstrip. Do you have on site fuel tanks? This may reqire additional protection from the state and local agencies.

Does the airstrip qualify under a FBO.If so you should also use a hold harmless agreement to any transient aircraft. This should be included with your general liability insurance and under tort law you will need a premises liability coverage. Thre is also hangerkeepers coverage.

A permission use is needed from landowners of the HOA for the operation of flghts in and out.

You need a very good Private Airport Risk management company to help you with the insurance.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
NancyD1,
I don't think they are trying to insure the airstrip, just a private access to the air strip. I have see rhis sort of thing I believe in a magazine. A plot of land next to a small airport is developed to have an HOA and lots are sold and houses are built and they have Pods next to the house to park the plane and aprons that allow aaccess to the runways, which, in this case, is probably owned by deveoper. All the airport stuff I would believe is already in place.
But it is hard to really know. In any event your advice should be helpful to them. My concern at this point would be the connections that remain with the developer in the documents turned over. If he is going to be just another member, that's fine, but if he still has a place in the documents that could be trouble. Of course there seems no doubt these folks are smart enough to know what they are doing, and maybe all she really needs is a good local insurance agent. I would think for something this unusual, to do a search on Google might prove productive.
DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
Thank you all for your suggestions. I hopefully will be able to find a good insurance agent familiar with the inclusion of the airport to the mix. I was really hoping someone could recommend one because I have called around local and have had no luck so far. I may just call other local airparks to see who they are insured with.
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 603
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Posted By DianeW on 10/22/2007 6:48 AM
Thank you all for your suggestions. I hopefully will be able to find a good insurance agent familiar with the inclusion of the airport to the mix. I was really hoping someone could recommend one because I have called around local and have had no luck so far. I may just call other local airparks to see who they are insured with.

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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
DianeW,
I Googled, Private Air Strips, HOA, Georgia, USA.

Lots of stuff there, might help.
DianeW (Maryland)
Posts: 147
Posted:
I called the insurance agency listed on this website (IHG) and they do offer D&O policies but not common area liability insurance. I do have one lead so far from contacting other local airparks that seems promising. Thanks for everyones help.

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