MiaR1 (Illinois)
Posts: 46
Posts: 46
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I live in a self managed condo association. We've been self managed for over 16 years. Our Board held annual meetings and had elections and on the surface everything looked okay but the condition of our building was slowly deteriorating over the last 16 years but owners were always told that the building is too old so not much can be done. Plus, we have owners who dont understand much about our CC&R nor care to learn nor know, have been and are apathetic and just want to pay their assessments and also expect the COA to simply pay for if their property experience any damage.I've lived here for a few years, in 2017, I was offered the opportunity to serve on our Board as the Board Secretary, as the previous Secretary wanted out due to her personal commitments.
Once I got on the Board, I learned we didn't have much of a Board and the show runner was our Treasurer for years. Board Pres was rarely available and for the last two years or so was managing the COA from a different state. Pres and Treasurer been on the Board consistently since 2005 without any break in between. As the Secretary, I added structure,discipline and professionalism to the Board and we somewhat became a functional Board. While serving, I was discovering alot of red flags so I kept on silently digging.One of the things I found was that besides the Pres, Treas, Bookkeeper, no other Board member ever saw the COA finances ever (including myself). I even got into argument with the bookkeeper pver this, she said she only worked with the Pres.
Upset, I got a petition together and got access to the finances, which blew up in my face because I discovered years(since 2005) of thefts and embezzlement by the Treas and Pres.Amounts were not large yearly, but over the years total amount was meaningful. Est loss is between $45k-$50k. Pres and Treas resigned. I took over as the Pres. Further learned that our building had years of City Violations because it wasn't being maintained properly inside out. I took over a very troubled condo association full of city violations, almost bankrupt reserves and operational COA accounts. I went to work and within short 17 months as the pres, I saved $100k single handedly. I am stating single handedly because my fellow Board members were always too busy with work, family and personal life and never bothered to give me a helping hand even after asking repeatedly. They only showed up to Board meetings which they scheduled per their schedule. I mean they were busy to a point where I had to pick up Treasurer's work and the Board Secretary's work for my entire tenure as Pres, none of which I asked for. Treasurer who served on the Board with me always had rivalry issues with me and never cooperated with me. We even had nasty arguments, but I received no support of any kind, no condemning of Treasurer's conducts, no discussion of having a better Board conduct(trust me I tried repeatedly) and serving together became extremely stressful for me.
We had COA election in November of 2020. I ran for re-election because I had set some goals for our COA that I wanted to accomplish in the next term, two of them being(1. Get a management company, 2. educate owners about our CC&R and get owners to get involved). Long story short, Board Secretary(who has two friends who were on the Board with me(Treas( my so called Rival) and Board Member At Large) and who also sought re-election) miscounted the votes in favor of his two friends and did not verify the proxies and ballots and ousted me without abiding by this due process mandated by our Bylaws. I must add that the previous Treasurer(who stole from our COA for years) brought proxies in favor of the two friends of the Board Secretary. Secretary overcounted the votes and skipped the verification of the proxies all together.
This Secretary announced to the owners that I was out and thanked me for my service. He took another Board member at Large(who was not up for election in 2020) and designated her as the Board President without following proper due process of our Bylaws.
Immediately after the election, I questioned everything.I asked to review the ballots and proxies, got them, and after review and multiple rereviews, noticed that votes were inflated for the Treasurer and another Board member(Secretary's friends). I informed the Secretary about these things and requested to have the recount and verification of the voting ballots and proxies because some of them had discrepencies yet he counted every ballot and proxy that previous Treasurer(the one who stole from our COA for years) brought for his friends. Since then, the Board Secretary and the entire Board went radio silent, and still going about running the COA business while like a fool I am continuing to ask for the recount for the past two months. So with the help of the Board Secretary, our COA went through a coup. They've informed vendors about themselves, posted notice with names of those Board members for every owner to know. And have stopped responding to me completely.
I got another petition together and sent to the Board attention to the Secretary via certified mail asking for a special meeting for the recount, verification of proxies, provide explanation about designating the president since this person was already serving as a Board member, provide finances of the COA. Sadly, I am not sure whether the meeting will be called. I am of the understanding that if this Board Secretary has gone out of his way to keep his friends on the Board, he nor others on the Board will hold the meeting even though they are legally required to. But they haven't been caring nor following the legal process to begin with.
Our COA has been hijacked by these people banding together for personal greed and desire to be in power even by violating our Bylaws. Our owners don't care about what has happened and when out of our 40 units, I am the only one raising my voice against these issues, I am being ignored, shunned. I have also learned that the Board Secretary already used the COA funds to help unclog sink of the Treasurer who brought voting proxies for his friends. So the misuse of our funds have begun, yet noone cares nor wants to be bothered with whats been happening.
Has anyone else gone through this type and this level of problems with self managed COA, with this extreme of Board members willing to ignore the Bylaws deliberately, what if anything can be done? Your suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
Once I got on the Board, I learned we didn't have much of a Board and the show runner was our Treasurer for years. Board Pres was rarely available and for the last two years or so was managing the COA from a different state. Pres and Treasurer been on the Board consistently since 2005 without any break in between. As the Secretary, I added structure,discipline and professionalism to the Board and we somewhat became a functional Board. While serving, I was discovering alot of red flags so I kept on silently digging.One of the things I found was that besides the Pres, Treas, Bookkeeper, no other Board member ever saw the COA finances ever (including myself). I even got into argument with the bookkeeper pver this, she said she only worked with the Pres.
Upset, I got a petition together and got access to the finances, which blew up in my face because I discovered years(since 2005) of thefts and embezzlement by the Treas and Pres.Amounts were not large yearly, but over the years total amount was meaningful. Est loss is between $45k-$50k. Pres and Treas resigned. I took over as the Pres. Further learned that our building had years of City Violations because it wasn't being maintained properly inside out. I took over a very troubled condo association full of city violations, almost bankrupt reserves and operational COA accounts. I went to work and within short 17 months as the pres, I saved $100k single handedly. I am stating single handedly because my fellow Board members were always too busy with work, family and personal life and never bothered to give me a helping hand even after asking repeatedly. They only showed up to Board meetings which they scheduled per their schedule. I mean they were busy to a point where I had to pick up Treasurer's work and the Board Secretary's work for my entire tenure as Pres, none of which I asked for. Treasurer who served on the Board with me always had rivalry issues with me and never cooperated with me. We even had nasty arguments, but I received no support of any kind, no condemning of Treasurer's conducts, no discussion of having a better Board conduct(trust me I tried repeatedly) and serving together became extremely stressful for me.
We had COA election in November of 2020. I ran for re-election because I had set some goals for our COA that I wanted to accomplish in the next term, two of them being(1. Get a management company, 2. educate owners about our CC&R and get owners to get involved). Long story short, Board Secretary(who has two friends who were on the Board with me(Treas( my so called Rival) and Board Member At Large) and who also sought re-election) miscounted the votes in favor of his two friends and did not verify the proxies and ballots and ousted me without abiding by this due process mandated by our Bylaws. I must add that the previous Treasurer(who stole from our COA for years) brought proxies in favor of the two friends of the Board Secretary. Secretary overcounted the votes and skipped the verification of the proxies all together.
This Secretary announced to the owners that I was out and thanked me for my service. He took another Board member at Large(who was not up for election in 2020) and designated her as the Board President without following proper due process of our Bylaws.
Immediately after the election, I questioned everything.I asked to review the ballots and proxies, got them, and after review and multiple rereviews, noticed that votes were inflated for the Treasurer and another Board member(Secretary's friends). I informed the Secretary about these things and requested to have the recount and verification of the voting ballots and proxies because some of them had discrepencies yet he counted every ballot and proxy that previous Treasurer(the one who stole from our COA for years) brought for his friends. Since then, the Board Secretary and the entire Board went radio silent, and still going about running the COA business while like a fool I am continuing to ask for the recount for the past two months. So with the help of the Board Secretary, our COA went through a coup. They've informed vendors about themselves, posted notice with names of those Board members for every owner to know. And have stopped responding to me completely.
I got another petition together and sent to the Board attention to the Secretary via certified mail asking for a special meeting for the recount, verification of proxies, provide explanation about designating the president since this person was already serving as a Board member, provide finances of the COA. Sadly, I am not sure whether the meeting will be called. I am of the understanding that if this Board Secretary has gone out of his way to keep his friends on the Board, he nor others on the Board will hold the meeting even though they are legally required to. But they haven't been caring nor following the legal process to begin with.
Our COA has been hijacked by these people banding together for personal greed and desire to be in power even by violating our Bylaws. Our owners don't care about what has happened and when out of our 40 units, I am the only one raising my voice against these issues, I am being ignored, shunned. I have also learned that the Board Secretary already used the COA funds to help unclog sink of the Treasurer who brought voting proxies for his friends. So the misuse of our funds have begun, yet noone cares nor wants to be bothered with whats been happening.
Has anyone else gone through this type and this level of problems with self managed COA, with this extreme of Board members willing to ignore the Bylaws deliberately, what if anything can be done? Your suggestions will be greatly appreciated!