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EdP2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 7
Posted:
We have never had our HOA audited. The current board is not interested in giving the landowners much information on where the money goes or what it is spent on.

Do the owners have the right to ask for an audit? If not who has the right to call for an audit?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Ed,

The owners can always ask, they can't demand.
When asked, the Board can always say no.

Keep in mind that an audit has to be paid for: $3,000 to $6,000

You might simply want to review the financials yourself.
Any member, under corporate statute, and likely your own governing documents, has the right to review the records of the Association.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Our bylaws require the books to be audited each year, with a copy of the report available to homeowners upon request (I put the report on our website along with other financials). Our attorney said that a full audit every five years with a review of the books in the intervening years is acceptable provided that the full audit didn't reveal any issues.

Probably should take a look at your bylaws to see if they have a similar requirement.

Personally I think audits are just good business practice even if not required, and they encourage good behavior.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 858
Posted:
Looking at the by-laws is a very good starting point, but it is not the end point. Please review your state laws that pertain to this topic to determine if the law(s) give an answer to your question. Our association has chosen years ago to do an audit each year and to have our financial documents available on a monthly basis.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Ed

Do you not get a yearly financial report? All corporations (HOA is a corporation) are required to produce one.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
since audits cost money, as Tim noted, you should start by determining if an audit is necessary. There are different audits out there, so it maybe easier to determine if one is necessary by reviewing the financial records, along with the board meeting minutes to get an idea of what's happened.

Send a written request and quote the section in your documents that may state what records homeowners are entitled to. If they refuse, a note from a private attorney may blast the information out of them. Send your letters certified with return receipt requested.

Even better- ask around the community and see if you have neighbors who are as annoyed as you are. All of you can attend the next meeting and demand answers. This could be the start of a movement that will make the board more transparent or you can recall the entire bunch and vote in replacements. One may have to be you.

From that point, you can talk to an accountant about audits and the type you'll need. Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
Some states require audits to be conducted, but you state may not. Like others have said, you can also look at your bylaws to see if there is anything about audits.

Audits are important, and owners should be able to understand where their money is going. If this continues to be a problem, the owners may have to take legal action.

https://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/la-fi-associations-20141102-story.html
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By EdP2 on 01/24/2021 4:16 PM
We have never had our HOA audited. The current board is not interested in giving the landowners much information on where the money goes or what it is spent on.

Do the owners have the right to ask for an audit? If not who has the right to call for an audit?

There's no right to "call" for an audit but your HOA should be getting annual audits conducted and, when requested, supply the audit upon request. There's nothing sensational in the audit results of a well-run HOA operation.

Given your HOA board is resistant to explaining cash outflows, then your HOA board is dysfunctional. Period.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
ED

I repeat my question:

Do you not get a yearly financial report? All corporations (HOA is a corporation) are required to produce one.
EdP2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 7
Posted:
We do but it is very sparse. They no longer explain what some of the expenses are, they are very vague. We had a take over a year or so ago, so the board is not as transparent as it used to be. They have thrown out all bylaws that had been updated since the beginning of the subdivision which had been put in place to try to keep the board honest and transparent. The ones they now follow say that the board doesn't have to ask for much of anything anymore.

We have found a discrepancy of several thousand dollars, and we receive give very vague answers if you can any. Their other response is always "the board has 10 days to reply" to anything that we ask.

There have been many problems with documents and transparency since this board has taken over, and we feel that we can not get any answers.
JohnC77 (California)
Posts: 562
Posted:
Think you may be confusing audits with reviews. Annual reviews are commonplace and generally are required in all corporations. Audits, from experience, are not much different from reviews, while a forensic audit would be more in depth. I think the OP is looking for some type of review, even maybe a simple annual balance sheet and annual income/expense sheet.

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