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SashaE1
Posts: 110
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I’m new to the Board and before was connected to various neighbors in a social media group for homeowners. I’m still part of that group but hardly ever active. At times I’ll comment on a posting by a homeowner but it’s based on facts and mostly informing the homeowners of civil code that protects their rights such as access to financial records. I joined the Board because I was very upset at how badly the previous Board of many years ran this place down financially. We now has 10% reserves balance and we have had two special assessments to repair which one was a whopping 8K. That was my last straw and I campaigned hard and took a seat on the Board bumping one of the old timers. Needless to say, they consider me a “threat”. I sometimes share as a homeowner during open forum at regular board meetings and might also comment in the homeowner group but I always make it clear that I am speaking as a homeowner. I had President tell me to pretty much stop sharing during open forum and to not share in the homeowner group. I let him know that if I ever comment it’s letting homeowners know about their rights and he frowned on it. And I said as a homeowner I have right to participate as long as I’m clear I’m speaking as a homeowner. He disagreed and again told me to stay silent or the Board would censure me because I was creating a dangerous situation by commenting getting homeowners upset. But they already are upset because of the two special assessments so all I’m doing is informing them to request financial records and keep the Board accountable so to be proactive and avoid yet another special assessment. Should I stay silent?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Here is the deal. As a board member you are elected to REPRESENT the member whom elected you to that office. Although you are a "homeowner" as the rest of the board is. Your position within the HOA is now to REPRESENT the majority of opinion the other non-board members express.

Which means you now play the roll of LISTENER to the owners/members and then cast your vote as such. You may also be an "educator" when asked questions of what certain things mean. You are their advocator to the board.

So it is NOT a silence thing as much as your role has changed to be one of representation. Think you need to step back and stop with the arguing/demands of your HOA and start doing the work of the HOA. Which is what the President is requesting you do and understand.

There is a different role to play once you get on the board. This isn't a "trader" thing but where the rubber meets the road thing. Putting your voice towards working on a solution than spraying it with problems.
Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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The problem is when on the BOD and one says something people take that as coming from or alluding to BOD thinking. As advised. Be a listener, not a speaker.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Sasha,
I think both posts above speak the truth. We all know by now FB, Nextdoor and Twit are not what they were designed to be. They are normally filled with angry people and those that want others to get angry. This is not a place where a Board member needs to get involved. If you must I always recommend that the first sentence start with I am not speaking as a board member I am speaking as a homeowner. If asked by anyone I also add that I am one of 5 votes on our board and am only 20% of any decision that is made.

Speaking on a Public forum has many downsides and very few upsides. If you take a side that person will say I heard it from the Board. If you speak against something they will say the Board sucks.

We just last month had to Censure one of our board members (A Rouge one) who was trying to get a new board elected and 3 of us voted off. She posted some 100% lies about the PMC and was quickly proved wrong by them. When this persons people did not beat the incumbents she stoked some other misinformation which caused more drama in our community. The statements were Libelous and Defamatory and 100% provable. HOs do this stuff all the time on Social Media but as others have mentioned as a Board Member we are and should be held to a higher standard.

I have also noticed that when a homeowner posts on Social media they usually (not always) have just received a letter for a violation or a late fee charged for not paying the dues. They want others to to join them in hating where they live.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
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As a Board President, we encourage homeowner input. The questions and or comments come to me usually in the form of an email. If I can answer the question or concern I will do so through email and copying each Board member. If the comment, or concern is from a conversation on the street or by phone, I listen and respond, then I follow-up with an email to that owner. This process I have found has removed any confusion as to what was said. I put each email in an electronic file called Homeowner issues and without using owners names, we put place homeowner input into our Board minutes. Each Board member has the same authorization to interact with owners answering questions.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
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Your position on the Board has elevated what you say has another level of meaning. You are no longer just a homeowner, you are a community leader and with that a higher standard of conversation and your words have greater meaning. Thank you for being willing to join the Board, but you are no longer one of the masses.
AugustinD
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Posted By SashaE1 on 01/24/2021 3:35 AM
I sometimes share as a homeowner during open forum at regular board meetings and might also comment in the homeowner group but I always make it clear that I am speaking as a homeowner. I had President tell me to pretty much stop sharing during open forum and to not share in the homeowner group. I let him know that if I ever comment it’s letting homeowners know about their rights and he frowned on it. And I said as a homeowner I have right to participate as long as I’m clear I’m speaking as a homeowner. He disagreed and again told me to stay silent or the Board would censure me because I was creating a dangerous situation by commenting getting homeowners upset. But they already are upset because of the two special assessments so all I’m doing is informing them to request financial records and keep the Board accountable so to be proactive and avoid yet another special assessment. Should I stay silent?
I think there is a political answer and there is a legal et cetera answer.

1. The political answer:
Sure, stay silent. Doing so makes the President and maybe other board members feel better. These are the people with whom you have to work the most.

2. The legal et cetera answer:

-- Without being snarky or sarcastic, ask the President to cite the section of the Bylaws, the Declaration and state law that prohibits you from participating in any homeowner forum (online, in-person or by Zoom et cetera). On the contrary all say you retain your rights as an owner. Also, the HOA has the right to fine you as an owner when, say, your home violates an architectural standard. One gets no special treatment as a director. Nor does one forego one's rights as an owner when one is a director.

-- Censure is for fifth graders. The sole purpose is to try to embarrass you. Let the board "censure" you. Repeat once and once only that you were exercising your rights with your owner's hat on; that you were informing members of any rights they have; and that you believe transparency, where legally possible, builds trust.

-- Be prepared for the Board to retaliate against you in other ways, including having the HOA attorney write you a bogus letter warning you to stop.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Augustine,
I guess it has been a long time since I was in 5th grade because I do not remember doing any back then. I have cut and pasted what a Censure is below. My question for you is an easy one. If you do not call out a board member for the flagrant mistake that they made to cause a Censure then it did not happen. To use your 5th grade analogy if your teacher did not punish you for causing trouble in class or not doing your homework. Would you have always done the right thing? I doubt it.

The reason for the Censure has to be cut and dry and the Majority must agree. It also goes into the minutes so others are able to see the reason. It also can be helpful during the upcoming board election to point out the members lack of judgement without disclosing board insider business. It is the only tool a board has to discipline it's members

What is a Censure?
A censure is as an official condemnation or reprimand that is used to formally recognize disapproval of one’s actions. Examples of conduct that is commonly used as the basis for censuring an association director include:

• A breach of the director’s fiduciary duties.

• Improper or offensive conduct toward association members, vendors or employees.

• Conflicts of interest which the director failed to disclose.

• Disruption of board meetings (i.e., overt hostility, profanity, intimidation, etc.)

• The censure is used to demonstrate that the board does not condone or endorse the misbehaving director’s conduct, and that the board is taking steps to prevent the conduct from continuing. The censure may help insulate the association and the board from potential liability that may arise as a result of the director’s conduct.

Censure Procedure
A censure is performed via a motion which is approved by a majority of directors in a duly held board meeting at which quorum is present. The censure is then recorded in the meeting’s minutes, along with information explaining the reasons for the censure.
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM19 on 01/24/2021 6:54 AM
I have cut and pasted what a Censure is below.
In my opinion, the OP's conduct does not rise to that of any of the examples given.

In addition, I do not know of any Bylaws, Declarations or statute that speaks of "censure" as a duty of the Board.

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PMy question for you is an easy one. If you do not call out a board member for the flagrant mistake that they made to cause a Censure then it did not happen.
I do not see any mistake. On the contrary, one could argue that the director-owner's actions were in the best interests of the HOA, and the President is the one who deserves censure.

I will comment on the particular situation you posted about your HOA.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Augustine,
You are correct the OP post does not meet an example of a censurable offense. I guess the point I was trying to make is one must be very careful as a board member. We usually know all the facts about homeowners because we have inside information that should not be discussed or shared outside of meetings. I personally do not have a FB account but I do peak at my wife's account when things are brewing.
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM19 on 01/24/2021 5:39 AM
We just last month had to Censure one of our board members (A [Rogue] one) who was trying to get a new board elected and 3 of us voted off. She posted some 100% lies about the PMC and was quickly proved wrong by them. When this persons people did not beat the incumbents she stoked some other misinformation which caused more drama in our community. The statements were Libelous and Defamatory and 100% provable.
-- For now, I will take you at your word that this person posted flat-out lies. If I served with a like-minded board majority and had such a director, I would recommend, for example, publishing a newsletter where the HOA addresses each lie, one by one. Let the director respond. Publish her responses, and the Board's rejoinder. If necessary, have the HOA attorney write a letter threatening a lawsuit for defamation.

-- I expect that you will likely complain that this takes too much time. You'd be a reverse ankle-biter. But in my opinion, the path I describe is the best one for ensuring peace.

-- "Censuring" does not answer the concerns that this person has raised. I think censuring does just the opposite: It gives the impression that the Board is hiding something.

-- Be aware that the standard for winning a defamation lawsuit high. One has to show damages to the corporation (or perhaps, the person who was lied about). HOA members and directors possess "qualified privilege" such that they may post mis-information and without ultimately being found liable for defamation.

-- My position remains: "Censure" has no basis in the governing documents, statute or HOA case law. It is the choice of a board that just does not want to deal with dissenters in a mature fashion.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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When I was on the board, I was careful about what I said to homeowners outside of official channels (eg. one-on-one chats with someone I bumped into at the mailbox).

I *always* started any comments with a disclaimer that I did not speak for the board, whatever I was about to say was my personal opinion only, and that the other board members may have different ideas. However, homeowners have a tendency to take whatever a board member says as reliable info, and this can come back to bite the board. So I avoided discussing association business at all except for answering a question that had a factual answer.

Board members don't lose their rights as homeowners, but they also can't ignore their obligations to the association whenever they want. Which means in practice that some homeowner rights will conflict with their fiduciary duty as a director.

Actively undermining other board members is likely to be one of them. Anyone who wants to stir up that level of commotion has to understand that it's going to negatively affect the board's ability to get things done. If I were the lone voice of reason on a board that I thought was behaving in an unlawful or just plain stupid manner, I'd resign first and then campaign openly for a recall.
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM19 on 01/24/2021 7:14 AM
I guess the point I was trying to make is one must be very careful as a board member. We usually know all the facts about homeowners because we have inside information that should not be discussed or shared outside of meetings. I personally do not have a FB account but I do peak at my wife's account when things are brewing.
For several very good reasons, IMO a director should take much more care to get the facts right.

On the other hand, the directors who come to this forum posting that the law is what they say it is, and they can do anything they want, disappoints.

I realize that, when it comes to boards, we are talking about volunteers. Understandably, these volunteers are often reluctant ones. The work is demanding and unpaid. The criticism, is often (like 90% of the time?) by owners ignorant of the covenants. The criticism is unrelenting. (But again, I'd say many boards are wrong like 90% of the time, and on important issues.)

I think the gold standard is what a competent HOA attorney would encourage. The law is not what a board says it is. The law is what the covenants, bylaws, often the rules and regulations, applicable state statutes, and maybe, with the help of an attorney, a bit of case law here and there. Most of the veterans here seem to encourage this gold standard. Will a Board get it right every time? No, but striving towards this perfection seems to me to be the best way to get the best out of one's board and HOA. Hence I agree that directors take particular care to get the facts right.
AugustinD
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Posted By CathyA3 on 01/24/2021 7:20 AM
If I were the lone voice of reason on a board that I thought was behaving in an unlawful or just plain stupid manner, I'd resign first and then campaign openly for a recall.
From experience, I agree. Trying to get a rogue board majority to comply with the governing documents, state law, and on some rare occasions with some boards, federal fair housing law, while one is a director, is much more difficult than resigning and trying to cause change as a mere Owner.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Augustine,
We will have to agree to disagree on the Censure discussion. Just to close it out with the last bit of facts. Our Board member made that claim that our PMC could not do 6 major things that this person claimed our prior PMC could do. Our current PMC sent her and copied the board proof that everything that this person claimed was currently being provided by them. It was extremely detailed with screen shots of every claim being discounted.

The board member made the false claims during an Election season and had other members she was trying to get elected go on Social media saying that if elected the first order of business would be to fire the current PMC. These HOs all have had violations which made them hate the company. That is where the damages would have come into play. If they fired the MC for that would have caused them to lose a 100K contract and they would have been able to use this as a reason to prove damages.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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The bottom line here (I don't think the OP is at censure level or in ball park) that you are now a BOARD member. It is time to join and act like a Board member. Which may mean not making certain "My opinion" comments while the board is making decisions. Your opinion doesn't matter necessarily as your now part of a group. A group to be working toward the same goal.

It's kind of like graduating college and becoming a school teacher at your old high school. You have been a student so long that your not used to using the "Teacher's lounge". Your in the "Teacher's lounge" now and will find out the Principle is your boss not your keeper any more.

Think that is the best analogy can compare it too. It's a different world because your in a different world. There will be a learning curve and that is where I think you are at.
Former HOA President
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM19 on 01/24/2021 7:30 AM
Our Board member made that claim that our PMC could not do 6 major things that this person claimed our prior PMC could do. Our current PMC sent her and copied the board proof that everything that this person claimed was currently being provided by them. It was extremely detailed with screen shots of every claim being discounted.

The board member made the false claims during an Election season and had other members she was trying to get elected go on Social media saying that if elected the first order of business would be to fire the current PMC. These HOs all have had violations which made them hate the company. That is where the damages would have come into play. If they fired the MC for that would have caused them to lose a 100K contract and they would have been able to use this as a reason to prove damages.
-- If the new board terminated the contract early, and for reasons that amounted to a violation of the contract, then the PMC has a "cause of action" in court against the HOA and I expect would prevail.

-- [Just saying] The PMC bringing a defamation lawsuit would be trickier. Still in my emphatic opinion, the Board should be highly supportive of the PMC getting out the facts, using HOA resources.

-- I know a director's job is difficult. In my opinion, to be of the greatest effectiveness, a director must understand that, first, members are typically ignorant of the governing documents. Second, a director must understand that repetition while staying calm is part of the volunteer job.

-- Happy to agree to disagree.
SashaE1
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/24/2021 7:30 AM
Posted By CathyA3 on 01/24/2021 7:20 AM
If I were the lone voice of reason on a board that I thought was behaving in an unlawful or just plain stupid manner, I'd resign first and then campaign openly for a recall.
From experience, I agree. Trying to get a rogue board majority to comply with the governing documents, state law, and on some rare occasions with some boards, federal fair housing law, while one is a director, is much more difficult than resigning and trying to cause change as a mere Owner.

This here! Thank you Augustin, Cathy and all who offered their perspective on the matter. I agree completely to take good care of what I say which is why I barely interact on social media now. And when I do I make it clear that I’m speaking as a homeowner and it’s my opinion. When I do speak as a Board member is to encourage homeowner participation at regular board meetings and quoting civil code so they know their rights such as to obtain certain financial records and to have access to reserve study information because the Board has not changed any of their spending behaviors and we closed last year once again at an operating deficit. So I can not be a solution on the Board as one member only if the others don’t care to solve with me and this is why I am encouraging homeowners to read financial documents and ask questions. I think this is why the President who’s been on the Board as President for 15 years, want me to be silent. Augustin, thanks so much for the suggestions. I will follow that. And if I think being the lone new Board member wanting to improve our finances isn’t going to be possible or I need to stay silent or get censured then I might just resign and advocate to get a new Board all together then or we will all risk another special assessment most likely or might decide to sell. I know what I’m doing is working because homeowners are attending regular Board meetings and requesting and reading the financial records they are entitled to and this is why I think the President wants me to stay silent. Thanks again for the information. It’s helps me learn and grow as a new Board member.
AugustinD
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Posted By SashaE1 on 01/24/2021 8:55 AM
And if I think being the lone new Board member wanting to improve our finances isn’t going to be possible or I need to stay silent or get censured then I might just resign and advocate to get a new Board all together then or we will all risk another special assessment most likely or might decide to sell.
Are you certain the special assessment was not appropriate? Are you well-grounded in how to read a reserve study? Boards do not normally make special assessments lightly.
SashaE1
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/24/2021 9:07 AM
Posted By SashaE1 on 01/24/2021 8:55 AM
And if I think being the lone new Board member wanting to improve our finances isn’t going to be possible or I need to stay silent or get censured then I might just resign and advocate to get a new Board all together then or we will all risk another special assessment most likely or might decide to sell.
Are you certain the special assessment was not appropriate? Are you well-grounded in how to read a reserve study? Boards do not normally make special assessments lightly.

The special assessment was appropriate. They repaired the pavement which was needed because there were several pot holes snd it was cracking. But the reserves are at 10% so special assessment to homeowners to pay for this cost. The reserve study said that the reserves are underfunded and the HOA is at high risk for special assessment. It suggested to decrease spending, increase assessments dues but the Board voted to spend 48K on remodeling the clubhouse which I don’t think is essential taking the financial condition the HOA is in and this is why I don’t think the Board is changing the spending behaviors that got the HOA to where it’s at currently financially.
ChrisE8
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Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you're on a board, you need to be a team player. That means communicating with owners generally only if the board is OK with it. This applies to any organization, not just a HOA.
AugustinD
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Posted By ChrisE8 on 01/24/2021 10:48 AM
Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you're on a board, you need to be a team player. That means communicating with owners generally only if the board is OK with it. This applies to any organization, not just a HOA.
The seemingly magical cliche "team player" do not mean that a director has to be complicit in violating the governing documents or law. If a director observes unlawful conduct, I argue she or he has a fiduciary duty not to stay quiet. (Of course, said director had better have a command of the facts; the violations had better be serious; and the director must her- or himself be squeaky clean.)

Nothing in the governing documents or state statutes states that a HOA director must get the permission from the board to communicate with members. I think any such prohibition would be as ridiculous as prohibiting a City Councilor or a member of the U. S. Congress from communicating directly with constituents via personal emails, town halls, Op-Eds and the like.
AugustinD
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Posted By SashaE1 on 01/24/2021 9:36 AM

The special assessment was appropriate. They repaired the pavement which was needed because there were several pot holes snd it was cracking. But the reserves are at 10% so special assessment to homeowners to pay for this cost. The reserve study said that the reserves are underfunded and the HOA is at high risk for special assessment. It suggested to decrease spending, increase assessments dues but the Board voted to spend 48K on remodeling the clubhouse which I don’t think is essential taking the financial condition the HOA is in and this is why I don’t think the Board is changing the spending behaviors that got the HOA to where it’s at currently financially.
Thank you for explaining. FWIW, nothing you wrote above seems unreasonable to me.
AugustinD
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Posted By ChrisE8 on 01/24/2021 10:48 AM
Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you're on a board, you need to be a team player. That means communicating with owners generally only if the board is OK with it. This applies to any organization, not just a HOA.
If only Enron's Board had not heeded this advice.
ChrisE8
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/24/2021 11:03 AM
Posted By ChrisE8 on 01/24/2021 10:48 AM
Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you're on a board, you need to be a team player. That means communicating with owners generally only if the board is OK with it. This applies to any organization, not just a HOA.
If only Enron's Board had not heeded this advice.

I may be missing something, but the issues with this board (other than the disputes among board members) seems to be financial decisions made by that board. That's not at all the same as Enron-style fraud, and not even the same as violations of governing documents.

Anyhow, my "issue" with the OP's behavior is not the message--it's how the message is conveyed.

OP, stick to your guns, stay on the board, but don't speak up in open forums or the like. Use the information you gather as a board member to try to get other people elected to the board. And if the board doesn't change, resign from the board and speak up, as a former board member who resigned due to board misconduct. Either of these approaches may pay off.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/24/2021 10:59 AM
Posted By ChrisE8 on 01/24/2021 10:48 AM
Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you're on a board, you need to be a team player. That means communicating with owners generally only if the board is OK with it. This applies to any organization, not just a HOA.
The seemingly magical cliche "team player" do not mean that a director has to be complicit in violating the governing documents or law. If a director observes unlawful conduct, I argue she or he has a fiduciary duty not to stay quiet. (Of course, said director had better have a command of the facts; the violations had better be serious; and the director must her- or himself be squeaky clean.)

Nothing in the governing documents or state statutes states that a HOA director must get the permission from the board to communicate with members. I think any such prohibition would be as ridiculous as prohibiting a City Councilor or a member of the U. S. Congress from communicating directly with constituents via personal emails, town halls, Op-Eds and the like.

I think both of you are correct about this. I think the problem with the OP's situation is that communicating with homeowners about HOA business outside of official channels and without the consent of the entire board can easily cross the line into undermining the board (I would argue that it already does). It's too easy for homeowners to get the message "here is stuff the board doesn't want you to know about".

For what it's worth, I've developed a web site (currently a work in progress) that addresses condo issues in general. The stated purpose of this web site is to create more informed condo buyers and owners, and secondarily to get a lot of the stuff I've learned the hard way "in writing". I may discuss real life examples, but never naming names. Of course, if I ever again run for a seat on the board, I would make this web site available to my community as part of my qualifications for the job, but the site wasn't created for the purpose of doing an end run around any particular board members.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Sasha does not like the way her BD operates so I expect her social chats are not mundane. I think she may do the BOD more harm then good on the neighborhood social chat.
SashaE1
Posts: 110
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my scarce comments on social media are pretty much informing homeowners to contact the MC with questions and informing them of civil code that protects their access to certain HOA documents. The irony is that this same President is in the homeowner social media group himself and comments. He told the membership about the last special assessment that was coming and now that I am on the Board I learned that the day he posted that information in the homeowner social group, was before the board had approved it in a regular board meeting. I think it’s about trying to control who the homeowners connect with and not wanting to “lose control” to a new Board member. But again thanks for feedback. I agree to stop talking to homeowners now since it seems most of you agree with the President.
ChrisE8
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SashaE1, I don’t approve of how the president operates.

I just think that you may be more effective by (as long as you’re on the board) not speaking out in public with messages that may be seen as going against what the board wants.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Sasha,
I do not agree with the President. If he did make that comment about the Special Assestment before it was voted on in a regular Board meeting he was dead wrong. I would call him on it and it should be easy to prove the facts.

The other reason why Social media is not good is that not every one on the FB site is an owner. If your community is like most all you have to do is live in the HOA to become a group member. HOA business is intended for owners only.
SashaE1
Posts: 110
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Yes Mark. I did tell him that. He has since removed the post. However I have a screenshot saved with the day it was posted. and The agenda where the Board approved the special assessment which reflects a later date. I was a homeowner then and not on the Board so I didn’t know this was not allowed. Overall, I agree because of the slippery slope with social media. I’ll limit anything I say on there if I ever do and refer them to contact the MC with questions and attend a regular Board meeting and leave it at that. Thanks again everyone
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Sasha,
This is just me but sometimes you need to be aggressive. I would show him the documentation you have and tell him the next time will be the last he gets away with it. If he continues you need to be willing to expose him. Takes guts and proof but it can be done.

I am not as inquisitive as others on here who look back at all other posts that are made in the past. My comments are always based on the recent post. It is always an uphill battle to get corruption out of an HOA. It is always worth it if you are on the right side.
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM19 on 01/24/2021 8:18 PM
I would show him the documentation you have and tell him the next time will be the last he gets away with it.
I would not make such a threat unless, for one, I had the agreement of a board majority.

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