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DanP10 (Washington)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Hello,

This is my first post on the forum. I own a detached condo (no walls shared) that is like a single family home. Kindly help me understand the language of my HOA about car repairs:

"No major auto repair shall be permitted except within enclosed garages which are kept closed. The only repairs permitted on the balance of the property are occasional casual repairs and maintenance activities such as tune-ups or oil changes".

Does it mean I can wash my car in my own drive way? How about major repairs as long as I keep my garage doors closed and do it during day time on weekends?

I do not plan to construct a car or anything. However, I do plan to change oil, change tires, install body parts like spoilers etc. in the future.

Thank you.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By DanP10 on 12/25/2020 10:17 PM

"No major auto repair shall be permitted except within enclosed garages which are kept closed. The only repairs permitted on the balance of the property are occasional casual repairs and maintenance activities such as tune-ups or oil changes".

Seems self explanatory.

Do the work in the garage with the door closed and you should have no issues.

If you do the work with the door open, you will be in violation of the section you cited.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
By my read, restated:
- ok to rebuild a car, motorcycle, etc, in your garage, with the door(s) closed
- ok to change a starter, oil, etc in your driveway

The determinate is likely related to how long the repair takes ...
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
probably not the starter.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
tune-ups any more are simply replacing the spark plugs (at least I think this is what the rule refers to)
I'm surprised they said changing oil, but it there.
Rotate tires, fix a flat - sure.
Add fluids - yep

Brake job - no
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
One could argue a brake job is allowed under occasional casual repairs. Some brake jobs take less time then a tune-up.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Yeah - we can start parsing this to develop a list, but my sense is they key is that the vehicle not remain outside the garage for more than a few hours - as in like it can't be in work overnight.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Best thing to do would be for the OP to ask their Board this question.

This way, they will know what their HOA considers major vs. minor and, lets face it, their interpretation will be the one that counts.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
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Posted By DanP10 on 12/25/2020 10:17 PM
help me understand the language of my HOA about car repairs:

"No major auto repair shall be permitted except within enclosed garages which are kept closed. The only repairs permitted on the balance of the property are occasional casual repairs and maintenance activities such as tune-ups or oil changes".


DanP10, is this listed in the HOA's covenants, or in its Rules and Regulations? The difference is that the covenants were written years ago by the developer. The Rules and Regulations typically are created by the Board and can be amended, with proper notice, by the Board.

If the above is a Rule created by the Board, then I want to see the covenant on which it is based.

Either way, in my opinion the Rule/covenant is too vague to be enforceable. Meaning, if push comes to shove (and I doubt it will in this situation), you can do whatever you want when it comes to car repairs. (But so as not to rock the boat, I recommend some discretion. Put cardboard down for all repairs to keep from staining the driveway. If the repair takes a few days and the vehicle must be somewhat dis-assembled for these few days, do it in the garage. Door open maybe during the day. Door shut at night.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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I live in a townhouse community similar to yours and while we can wash a car and do emergency repairs like jumping a battery or change a flat tire, we can't change the oil or do messy stuff like that on the street. You

I don't know why you didn't ask your property manager or your board about this, but in your case, it appears you'll be ok with maintenance you described as long as you keep the garage door closed. If you want to do something more intense, your be better off taking the car to a car shop or one of those places where you can rent a workspace

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Sheila,

Not sure even engine rebuilds would be counter to the rules as stated - as long as the garage door(s) are closed.

The problem in this topic is the guy who either never finishes the project in the garage, or grinds on car body repairs ðŸĪŠ
DanP10 (Washington)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thank you all for your insights.

My plan is wash the car in the drive way (or just take it to the nearest car wash which is like 6 mins) and do everything else in my garage with the door closed.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Were I on the BOD with docs that read as the OP published, my main concerns would be the time it takes to do the project? How the place looks after the work is done? How often do those projects take place? Do the vehicles being worked on belong to people that live there?

Less than say 6 hours, once a month or so, no tools/rigs left out, and the vehicle belongs to someone that lives there, I would not have a problem with.

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