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JignyaT (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Hi everyone,

Curious if other boards actively use any social media platforms to communicate meeting dates? We currently post hardcopy on community bulletin board by mailboxes and email blast to members, but both seem to be overlooked at times. Members have said they are unaware of meetings though they are definitely posted in the manner described above.

Has anyone used social media platforms (NextDoor, Facebook, etc) for communicating basic information like this, in addition to other methods? Are there pros/cons to consider? One point someone raised was not communicating dates/times of physical meetings as it may indicate to potential burglars that people won't be home - though I think this is fairly silly as attendance is not mandatory at these meetings. At any rate, currently all meetings are virtual due to COVID and will likely continue as virtual in some capacity going forward, so that would not be a concern anyway.

One other tangential point - our community is smaller and we have no community room. We do have an outdoor community pool area but typically rent space from local community centers for board meetings. As we are virtual now with COVID, we'd like to continue in this manner but by-laws seem to require a physical meeting location with at least one board member present in person (rest can be virtual). In that event, I would not mind offering pool area or my living room as physical location (if indoor space is needed due to weather) but would expect most would attend virtually. Can anyone advise of pros/cons to this approach? Would save the HOA ~ $800/yr for facility rental costs for meetings.

Thanks,
JT
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
We've had a number of discussions about social media around here. While some disagreed, the general consensus is DON'T.

The issue is that an HOA is legally liable for anything that is posted on their platform. Social media can collect defamatory comments, false accusations, copyrighted material, photos of minors posted without parental permission, and the like. (This is why websites have Terms of Service agreements as long as your arm - to protect themselves from lawsuits based on users' postings.) This doesn't even include the kinds of arguments that can spring up on social media and really poison a community's atmosphere. Someone would have to spend time policing the platform, and board members' time can already be limited.

But using things like a community website and newsletter to make information available is a good idea. Just don't make the website interactive, except maybe for some very limited things (service requests, for example).
JohnC77 (California)
Posts: 562
Posted:
I am assuming you are self managed, so I would have a website setup to pass on information and have information available when needed by owners. Never, and I repeat, NEVER use social media ion a HOA, unless of course you want your tenure as a board member to be a very short one.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Re: meetings, my community also has no meeting spaces available. But our township makes their Trustees Meeting Room available free of charge to local clubs and other nonprofits like HOAs, so that's what we use - just need to schedule far enough in advance to get the room. That might be an option. In the past we used things like church facilities, but these aren't free since it's expected that you'll make a thank-you donation. Libraries also tend to charge for meetings that aren't open to the general public. Even if we'd have to pay, it's still cheaper than maintaining a clubhouse.

In general I don't like using personal homes to hold business meetings. For one it tends to feel more like a social event, and you want to encourage professional conduct among all attendees. And space is often limited and may discourage attendance. Finally, there always seems to be a few homeowners with poor respect for boundaries who think nothing of banging on the board president's door at all hours. Most people will be reasonable, but a few will abuse privileges - and once in a while we'll have a post from someone who has been threatened or harassed by a homeowner. You shouldn't risk your safety and privacy in order to serve your community.
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
Posted:
If they are ignoring the emails and the notices by the mailbox odds are they will ignore social media. Like others, I would avoid social media like the plague. We also use email and notices by the mailbox. In addition, three days before the meeting we post signs announcing the meeting by our two entrances. This did increase attendance which we wanted.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Do not use nor have an interactive site. Make it informational where the BOD Does all the posting and no one can respond, otherwise you could end up with a public bytching site even when password protected and hurting potential sales.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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We have a gmail address site where owners can send the BOD Emails. All Emails get automatically distributed to each BOD Member and the BOD decides what to reply to. Same with replies.
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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Posted By JohnC46 on 12/15/2020 12:46 PM
We have a gmail address site where owners can send the BOD Emails. All Emails get automatically distributed to each BOD Member and the BOD decides what to reply to. Same with replies.

We do the same and much to my surprise people use it. We make it clear it is not for work orders or payment questions as this is handled by the MC. (An auto-reply is set up with this reminder.)
JignyaT (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Stay away from Social Media, got it. Glad I asked, ha ha.

And good point on the personal residence but it is a small community and everyone knows where I live. So not a big secret if anyone did want to ring my bell at midnight, but so far no one here will do that. Perhaps we can just use the pool area rain or shine, as long as there is a virtual option as well.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
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I wouldn't do anything on Facebook or NextDoor or any other online service that requires an owner to sign up. I guess the same requirement exists in order to go online and access a real-time meeting on Zoom, though, so I'll have to re-think that. FB and NextDoor are all about advertising, however, and Zoom exists primarily to offer streaming audio and video meetings online. Forcing people to sign up for Zoom allows them to view and participate in meetings and there's no advertising aspect. On the other hand, I don't think anyone should compel an owner to become an advertising target for third parties as an "extra bonus" when all they want is access to information being provided by their HOA or condo association.
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
Hi Jignya,

Communication is always tricky, but, as others have suggested, I would stay away from social media when it comes to meetings or any other formal community issues/business.

It's just very difficult to moderate and manage, and often, the page turns into a place to post complaints. Continue with the emails, and you could create a basic password-protected website if the community wants something more digital.
SashaE1
Posts: 110
Posted:
what about when homeowners get together and use the HOA name and create a social media group to bitch and complain about the HOA and the Board?
SashaE1
Posts: 110
Posted:
what about when homeowners get together and use the HOA name and create a social media group to bitch and complain about the HOA and the Board?
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
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Posted By SashaE1 on 12/17/2020 6:45 PM
what about when homeowners get together and use the HOA name and create a social media group to [junk redacted] complain about the HOA and the Board?
-- Members have a right to complain.

-- A web site that claims to speak for the corporation, by, say, using the name of the corporation, is violating corporate laws.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By AugustinD on 12/17/2020 8:45 PM
Posted By SashaE1 on 12/17/2020 6:45 PM
what about when homeowners get together and use the HOA name and create a social media group to [junk redacted] complain about the HOA and the Board?
-- Members have a right to complain.

-- A web site that claims to speak for the corporation, by, say, using the name of the corporation, is violating corporate laws.

Agree. As long as they're not trying to pass themselves off as anything official, ignore them and beef up communications through official channels so that they're not the only voice people are hearing. If they're using things like your community logo and/or signage, the cease and desist letter from the association attorney may be appropriate.

People may not want to spend association money on this, but remember, a determined group of complainers can do a lot of damage. They can poison the atmosphere of a community and affect the opinions of even those who don't particularly agree with them ("if there's smoke, there's a fire"). And prospective buyers may see the complaints and decide they don't want to live there.

But the best way to derail complainers is by effectively communicating with homeowners, and the board has a number of tools to do this - they just have to use them. Let the gripers discredit themselves.
SashaE1
Posts: 110
Posted:
agree wholeheartedly!
JeffreyB7 (Texas)
Posts: 1
Posted:
While I agree, I'm a little surprised by the Social Media comments. Absolutely, the HOA should never utilize FB or Nextdoor as a sanctioned or official means of communication.

But more often than not, you will still find your residents creating their own group, if not on Facebook then on Nextdoor. The trivial infighting and complaints are sure to come, and while I would suggest avoiding social media, if one does exist it would not be bad to share upcoming meetings, events, or important notices on it (as a resident).

Personally, we've seen a huge jump in participation moving to meeting over Zoom rather than in person (+1200%), so luckily our board will be continuing that direction post Covid. Written communication and email didn't help attendance much, but just letting folks know on social media (that already existed) and online Board meetings have definitely helped.

Who knows, one day we may even move into the 21st century and do our voting online and such.

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