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GregM14 (Washington)
Posts: 81
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I'm thinking about pursuing a Master of Business Administration to gain leadership insight and education. Doing so would mean I would need to step down as HOA board member.

Right now I am one of two active board members, and as such, have had a great opportunity to lead projects, manage budgets, and gain leadership experience that way. I am thinking that I can probably gain as much leadership education and experience by being an HOA board member as I could pursuing a MBA, at the same time, benefiting my community.

Thoughts?
AugustinD
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Posted By GregM14 on 11/30/2020 8:19 AM
I'm thinking about pursuing a Master of Business Administration to gain leadership insight and education. Doing so would mean I would need to step down as HOA board member.

Right now I am one of two active board members, and as such, have had a great opportunity to lead projects, manage budgets, and gain leadership experience that way. I am thinking that I can probably gain as much leadership education and experience by being an HOA board member as I could pursuing a MBA, at the same time, benefiting my community.

Thoughts?
What an interesting question. A McKinsey consulting firm study would likely go straight to a cost-benefit analysis.

-- That MBA will cost you how much in tuition?

-- Will you have to forego some wages while you study for your MBA? Factor this in.

-- How much is the MBA worth after you get it, by way of increased salary and better job opportunities?

-- How much does serving as a HOA director pay? (Nothing.)

-- Does service as a HOA director enhance your professional resumé? I'd say maybe a tiny bit, but not as much as an MBA does. And this is not based in arrogance. I think the course of study that an MBA covers is more comprehensive than the nuts and bolts of running a HOA.

-- What have you learned about "leadership" in your service as a director? Maybe this is the stuff of another thread.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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You know what works best for you and how you manage time between study, work, family, hoa, etc.

Question: Will the MBA open opportunities for you (different job, higher pay, etc.) or is this simply for your personal interest (knowledge for the sake of knowledge)?
GregM14 (Washington)
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Posted By TimB4 on 11/30/2020 8:31 AM
You know what works best for you and how you manage time between study, work, family, hoa, etc.

Question: Will the MBA open opportunities for you (different job, higher pay, etc.) or is this simply for your personal interest (knowledge for the sake of knowledge)?

My understanding is that while the knowledge is useful, far more MBAs graduate every year than there are positions of leadership open for the graduates, so most don't use the skills that they have.

I concur that "HOA Board Member" is not the most prestigious title to put on a resume.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
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GregM,

Unless you spend FAR more time actually engaging in HOA related activities than most, I can't imagine why the two would conflict sufficiently to require you decide.

Can you provide some additional background.

To answer your question as asked - in general, an additional degree of ANY kind will be more useful to you than being on a Board for an HOA/COA/POA.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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That depends on what you'd like to do with your degree after you earned it. Getting an NBA will take lots of time and energy, so if that's what you want, to for it.

This would give you a chance to find someone who would be interested in being a board member (it's usually easier for a board member to seek someone out because no one responds to general calls). Your colleagues would probably appreciate your coming up with a candidate.

You can still serve as a resource for the board, as long as they understand your time will be limited and they will have to figure out some things on their own. Good luck in your studies!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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An MBA goes a long way in the business world. Be on an HOA BOD means little to nothing in the business world. BOD's would be better served via a CPA than an MBA.
GregM14 (Washington)
Posts: 81
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I think you guys are not giving yourself enough credit for board membership.

Being active on the HOA board provides real life leadership experience.
An MBA provides book smarts for how to be a leader, but not actual leadership experience.

For me, the real life leadership experience outweighs getting more book-smarts about being a leader.
AugustinD
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Posted By GregM14 on 11/30/2020 12:08 PM
For me, the real life leadership experience outweighs getting more book-smarts about being a leader.
What have you learned about leadership?
KerryL1 (California)
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Will you tell us,Greg, for what purpose you want "to gain leadership insight and education?" Career advancement? Personal interest & curiosity? Increase your earning capacity?
ChrisE8
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Posted By GregM14 on 11/30/2020 8:19 AM
I'm thinking about pursuing a Master of Business Administration to gain leadership insight and education. Doing so would mean I would need to step down as HOA board member.

Right now I am one of two active board members, and as such, have had a great opportunity to lead projects, manage budgets, and gain leadership experience that way. I am thinking that I can probably gain as much leadership education and experience by being an HOA board member as I could pursuing a MBA, at the same time, benefiting my community.

Thoughts?

I'd look at the value of the MBA overall, totally separate from any other activities.

You could always stay on as an officer or advisor of the HOA and help out as time permits, right? And if not, opportunities to serve on boards will likely come over time in the future--churches love volunteers for governing councils, HOAs sometimes do and other organizations love them.

I am on multiple boards and I list some of them on my bio page at work, but I wouldn't consider any of them as a replacement for a degree.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Actually in some colleges your HOA experiences (documented) can be applied to college credit. I was able to apply a year of my HOA Presidency for lieu of some credits. It applied to my degree program was pursuing at the time. It helped with my Project Management course work.

FYI: I was President of my HOA, going to college, working full time job, part time job, and volunteering for Habitat for Humanity. So I was going to get any credit I could for that experience if I could.

Former HOA President
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
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Posted By GregM14 on 11/30/2020 8:19 AM
I'm thinking about pursuing a Master of Business Administration to gain leadership insight and education. Doing so would mean I would need to step down as HOA board member.

Right now I am one of two active board members, and as such, have had a great opportunity to lead projects, manage budgets, and gain leadership experience that way. I am thinking that I can probably gain as much leadership education and experience by being an HOA board member as I could pursuing a MBA, at the same time, benefiting my community.

Thoughts?

Yes, you can gain valuable leadership experience by serving your HOA, especially if you're 1 of 2 directors.

My advice - if allowed and logistics allow - is to meet bi-monthly or quarterly depending on business work load associated w/ the HOA. If you're spending more than 3 to 4 hours, weekly, on HOA business and tactical property oversight, you may have a decision to make.
GenoS (Florida)
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I highly question what added value an MBA would bring to a corporation that's not interested in making a profit.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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I'd reply, too, if Greg will tell us why he wants "to gain leadership insight and education." There is no obvious or singular reason.
JohnC77 (California)
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Posted By GenoS on 12/02/2020 2:18 PM
I highly question what added value an MBA would bring to a corporation that's not interested in making a profit.

I would bet you might need a MBA to run a charitable foundation under a 501(c) which is a non-profit.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
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I think a masters in finance is a much more employable degree.

But, the institution where it is obtained is key.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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I think a masters in finance is better too. But, it depends on what Greg values. And he won't say what his purpose is for wanting it--or not.

If it's actually "leadership" he wants to learn more about, he might want a masters in organizational behavior.

My new hero, the Lt. Gov. of PA, has a masters in Public Policy, which might be useful. It depends on what Greg's goal is. And that's a mystery.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
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Good point, Kerry.

I watched folks advance through senior levels of federal government - a lot of M and PhD in Public Policy ... good finishing degree.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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I will say the experience of running my HOA did show me leadership and corporate understanding. It was valuable knowledge. It has helped me in other areas in my career. I do not care about getting an MBA as it adds no value what I do in life. It does not hurt to have it either in what you want.

Former HOA President

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