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FredP4 (Texas)
Posts: 1
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Our Gated Community of 52 homes has about 1/2 mile of private streets. Each HOA homeowner is assessed $1,800 annually(includes mowing of every homeowners property 43 times per year) for maintenance of gates, motor repair and replacement, etc. The annual assessment includes $200 for future private street repairs and replacement, as needed. The 2014
Capital Reserve Study projects that major private street repairs costing an estimated $180,000 will be required in year 2031. Homeowners have argued, at every Annual Meeting,
that they have already paid for the private streets in the purchase price of their homes. The argument being that the Developer had included the cost of the private streets in the initial sales price of the lots to the builders who passed the cost on to the home buyers. Therefore, future private street repairs and replacement should be paid by imposing a "Special Assessment" on the HOA homeowners in 2031 and beyond because they will be the beneficiaries of of the private street improvements. The Board of Directors has made the argument that the future value of every home is dependent upon the existence of a Capital Reserve account that is sufficient to to cover all future expenses to include future private street repair and replacement. QUESTION: How have other Gated Communities resolved this issue with their HOA membership and are their some unique solutions to this issue that may satisfy all parties involved ?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Here's the thing with HOAs: you'll never satisfy all parties about anything, ever. You'll be happier once you understand this. :-)

You probably won't get through to the "we've already paid for the streets" crowd, but when we've dealt with similar issues, we point out that what they've paid for is the useful life of the streets, which ends at some point. If you live on city-owned streets, you pay taxes for their upkeep. If you live on private streets, the contribution to the reserve is your version of taxes.

People buy other big ticket items such as cars, and they don't expect them to keep running perfectly forever without any further outlay of money, do they? They also paid for their roofs, but at some point they'll have to pony up for new ones. Streets are no different.

But this isn't the answer they want. They want the perfect car that runs forever without any maintenance whatsoever, and there ain't no such in this life.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Fred,

The logic of those whining about the reserve requirements based on their assessment that they already paid for the streets is illogical and nonsensical.

First, perform an updated Reserve Study - it is time - especially since repaving cost is related to asphalt cost which is related to price of oil somewhat - plus the rate of deterioration may have changed a bit.

Then understand and communicate the rationale from the various organizations that conduct reserve studies (online) - get he reserve company that does the new study to review the findings with the membership.

And, yep, there will always be some cheap twit who will fight this. Simply overwhelm them with facts, and then vote.

I was in such a neighborhood - about the same number of lots, but more roads since lots were 5 acres - there was one guy - obnoxious, cheap, and stupid who kept fighting it, including being incredibly offensive to the engineer at the membership meeting until a couple of us threatened to evict him. We voted, the worthless jerk who was fighting it lost. We moved on, increased assessments, repaved the roads about seven years later, then reduced assessments a bit since we had a rebaselined road and reserve study calling for extended repaving.

Finally - big cost road repaving can be extended by maintaining them - in most cases by crack sealing, saw cutting alligatored areas and rebuilding, fixing potholes quickly, etc - our experience went from 7-8 years to estimates in the 12-14 year range.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
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Posted By FredP4 on 10/31/2020 6:01 AM
The Board of Directors has made the argument that the future value of every home is dependent upon the existence of a Capital Reserve account that is sufficient to to cover all future expenses to include future private street repair and replacement.
What a well-written, concise explanation. CathyA3 and GeorgeS21 said it well. A few additional observations:

-- In my opinion, understanding reserve Studies requires higher math skills and financial literacy skills. About 99.5% of Owners and directors do not have these skills.

-- Owners should be reminded that the risk of a Special Assessment is that some will not be able to pay it. Then the HOA has to get a loan. This adds more costs for all.

-- Perhaps the Owners should be told they can always vote in a new board who will do the Special Assessment many say they prefer.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By AugustinD on 10/31/2020 7:12 AM
Posted By FredP4 on 10/31/2020 6:01 AM
The Board of Directors has made the argument that the future value of every home is dependent upon the existence of a Capital Reserve account that is sufficient to to cover all future expenses to include future private street repair and replacement.

Something I forgot to mention: many lenders look at a community's reserves before agreeing to make mortgage loans, and may charge higher interest rates or deny loan approval altogether if reserves are inadequate. This obviously can affect home values.

The Board sounds knowledgeable and responsible.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Fred,
You are getting sound advice from everyone who has written. The only thing I would add to what was said is your roads will not last until 2031 if maintenance is not done every few years. The reserve study should point this out. Maybe the Nay Sayers need to go to New Orleans and dry around some of the streets in that City and see what no maintenance gets you. It is bad and makes the community look cheap and Buyers will go elsewhere.

I would hope the majority of your board would do the right thing and prepare for future expenses before they happen. No one wants to see that Special Assessment letter in the mail. If you are on the board when that letter goes out the one thing that is for sure. Your board was not doing their job.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Fred

All good advice by others. Yes the original purchasers indirectly paid to have the roads developed and paid to have others things done (maybe a retention pond, entrance signs, gates, etc.) as they were cost incurred by the developer to create the neighborhood/association. That said, the discussion is about maintaining the roads, not who originally paid for them. All owners use and should pay to maintain the roads, including the original owners.

GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Good points, John.

I might also add the developer was developing to produce a product. The product was a buildable lot with access. Those that bought a lot were buying a product - and the product was made up of many, many components.

Once the product exchanged hands, and the association took over, everyone starts paying to repair/replace depreciated capital assets.

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