GenoS (Florida)
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Posts: 4,276
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I didn't want to hijack the other thread on patios and ARC approval, but I do want to add this which is happening in my Florida HOA. Any thoughts?
My HOA board tabled approval of an Architectural Change Request for a patio last Tuesday.
The request was submitted by Mrs. A.
Mrs. A is on the board.
Mrs. A is the only member of the Architectural Control Committee.
She had already approved the (her own) application on behalf of the committee and submitted it to the Board for final approval with the recommendation from "the committee" (i.e. herself) to approve it.
FL state law requires all meetings of an Architectural Control Committee to be noticed and open to all homeowners. Mrs. A held her own secret committee meeting of the committee; there was no notice of the meeting posted.
When the question of approval came up at the Board meeting, there was only the 1-page application. No drawings, no pictures, no sketches, no elevations, no mention of materials, no contractor name, no nothing.
Mrs. A motioned its approval before she recused herself from the vote. As it turns out, the Board had already approved and paid for the relocation of the underground irrigation lines and sprinkler heads behind her house. All done in secret and behind closed doors. "We can't have any meetings because of COVID-19".
Essentially the Board was prepared to rubber-stamp a decision they had already made outside of a Board Meeting, which is against our Bylaws and state law. There was quite the reaction from some of the other homeowners at the meeting and the president recommended tabling the approval of the application which the others on the Board agreed to do.
Reacting to the vocal dissent from the homeowners in attendance, the president announced that in the future the board would consider Architectural Change Applications on a case-by-case basis. Sounds to me like the very definition of arbitrary and capricious.
We have no detailed written Architectural guidelines or requirements. There's just a couple of sentences in the CC&Rs about "aesthetics, harmony and the common character of the community".
My HOA board tabled approval of an Architectural Change Request for a patio last Tuesday.
The request was submitted by Mrs. A.
Mrs. A is on the board.
Mrs. A is the only member of the Architectural Control Committee.
She had already approved the (her own) application on behalf of the committee and submitted it to the Board for final approval with the recommendation from "the committee" (i.e. herself) to approve it.
FL state law requires all meetings of an Architectural Control Committee to be noticed and open to all homeowners. Mrs. A held her own secret committee meeting of the committee; there was no notice of the meeting posted.
When the question of approval came up at the Board meeting, there was only the 1-page application. No drawings, no pictures, no sketches, no elevations, no mention of materials, no contractor name, no nothing.
Mrs. A motioned its approval before she recused herself from the vote. As it turns out, the Board had already approved and paid for the relocation of the underground irrigation lines and sprinkler heads behind her house. All done in secret and behind closed doors. "We can't have any meetings because of COVID-19".
Essentially the Board was prepared to rubber-stamp a decision they had already made outside of a Board Meeting, which is against our Bylaws and state law. There was quite the reaction from some of the other homeowners at the meeting and the president recommended tabling the approval of the application which the others on the Board agreed to do.
Reacting to the vocal dissent from the homeowners in attendance, the president announced that in the future the board would consider Architectural Change Applications on a case-by-case basis. Sounds to me like the very definition of arbitrary and capricious.
We have no detailed written Architectural guidelines or requirements. There's just a couple of sentences in the CC&Rs about "aesthetics, harmony and the common character of the community".