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KrystalA (Iowa)
Posts: 60
Posted:
Lately I had noticed a cigarette smell in certain areas of my living room. I am not a smoker, and I hadn't been in any smoky areas. Odd. Until I went to take my dog out for a walk -

Well, it seems the neighbors don't smoke in their house, but instead domke in the grage which butts up against my living room wall.

HOw would you approach it. If it matters or not - they are renters so they may have rules about smoking inside (dunno)

They are erally nice, so I hate to seem mean but I loath cigarettes and now its affecting my house and even tonight my eyes have been burning from it.

Help
Jadedone4 (Virginia)
Posts: 495
Posted:
Ask the neighbor to smoke in garage with door open.

Head to home improvement store, in the door hardware section you will find foam outlet cut-outs (shaped like a light switch, or outlet panel), that cost about $3, place behind your panel faceplates. They are used to prevent drafts from around the outlet/panels but also work well in keeping out smoke.

Ask HOA to address, since they are rentors, directly to the owner of unit - if smoke is finding its way into your unit, then it is probably finding its way into their living space as well.
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 603
Posted:
Some related articles:

http://www.communityassociations.net/cacondoguru/archives/2007/03/may_an_associat_1.html

http://www.communityassociations.net/cacondoguru/archives/2005/11/smoking_noise_n.html

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RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Krystal, many condos have initiated no smoking rule I recall reading about some of the owners in these condos winning court cases. Second hand smoke has been established to be hazardous to some, if not all, people's health.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Kyrstal,
Your problem is not with the renters, your problem has to be resolved with the owner of the unit. Write the owner a nice letter, copy the board, and request that he remedy the situation. I would not get involved in trying to suggest ways and means to correct the problem. As noted, it may help to insulate wall sockets, but the problem originates next door.
You can suggest the owner should inform you of any actions he feels would solve the problem, and to please copy the Board. That way the renters, (neighbors)has to resolve any conflict with the owner and not you. Don't get sucked into a long, he said, you said, confrontation. Keep the board informed, even if they don't feel they should be.
PatrickH (California)
Posts: 204
Posted:
Hi Krystal,

I'd speak with the tenants first to see if something as simple as them putting a fan in the garage to blow the smoke out might be the answer. Most smokers are acutley aware nowadays how much people complain about cigarette smoke, they may even have a prohibition against smoking indoors in their lease.

If they are nice, reasonable people, they'll understand that you don't want smoke inside your home, so they should be willing to try something to help you out.

If they refuse to do anything, then I'd contact the unit owner about it.
JanM (Texas)
Posts: 142
Posted:
Well why the heck not??? We already have the language police and the clothes police, why not police smoking??
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JanM on 10/12/2007 6:45 AM
Well why the heck not??? We already have the language police and the clothes police, why not police smoking??

Why police smoking? Because second hand smoke has been proven to cause health problems. Sometimes condo associations have been sued and lost over smoking issues. So, just like other restrictions, this needs to be addressed.
DottieS (Massachusetts)
Posts: 34
Posted:
We have a No Smoking Rule at 2 of my condo's "No Smoking in the common Areas" Which means the pool , and the laundry and decks, all common areas.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Dottie, In a condo, the garage would not be any kind of common are. I bet you will find it is listed under unit description of that unit. All units should be described in the Master Deed as exhibits.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JanM on 10/12/2007 6:45 AM
Well why the heck not??? We already have the language police and the clothes police, why not police smoking??

In this case, the smoke (or smell) is entering a private residence. It's not like a restaurant where the non-smoker has a choice to go somewhere else.

Ron
SC
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KrystalA on 10/10/2007 8:58 PM
Lately I had noticed a cigarette smell in certain areas of my living room. I am not a smoker, and I hadn't been in any smoky areas. Odd. Until I went to take my dog out for a walk -

Well, it seems the neighbors don't smoke in their house, but instead domke in the grage which butts up against my living room wall.

HOw would you approach it. If it matters or not - they are renters so they may have rules about smoking inside (dunno)

They are erally nice, so I hate to seem mean but I loath cigarettes and now its affecting my house and even tonight my eyes have been burning from it.

Help

Smoke from their garage should not be ending up in your living room. There is something wrong here. Suppose it was fumes from their car running or from gasoline stored in the garage. Sealing any openings, electrical outlets, etc. would be a good step. It really should be sealed on their side (the garage).

If they are smoking with the garage door open, is it possible that the smoke is being picked up by your HVAC unit and distributed throughout your home?

You might want to have a qualified contractor look at how the smoke is getting into your home.

Back to the nighbors, I don't think you'll get very far trying to tell them that they cannot smoke in their own home unless there's a local law that covers this. You can ask and you can tell them how much it bothers you.

Ron
SC
Jadedone4 (Virginia)
Posts: 495
Posted:
RonW, EXCELLENT point about other fumes entering the unit. I am sitting here going "duh" because the laptop is five feet from the garage door and the CO2 detector.

Outside of this post, this is something that we ALL need to consider now that we are approaching Winter (higher usage of portable heaters, warming of cars in garages longer, etc).

Thanks RonW
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By Jadedone4 on 10/13/2007 4:46 PM
RonW, EXCELLENT point about other fumes entering the unit. I am sitting here going "duh" because the laptop is five feet from the garage door and the CO2 detector.

Outside of this post, this is something that we ALL need to consider now that we are approaching Winter (higher usage of portable heaters, warming of cars in garages longer, etc).

Thanks RonW

You're welcome.

Most jurisdictions have some pretty stringent building and fire codes relating to townhomes, garages, fire stops, etc. As I said, it might be a good idea to have a qualified contractor check for construction defects.

Ron
SC

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