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Posted By RichardS30 on 08/19/2020 9:24 AM
is it reasonable and customary for a HOA BOD president to allow all members to discuss back and forth the merits of an issue before someone makes a motion to approve the issue?
OR does a BOD member have a right to motion for a vote on an issue after making his case for it but before others have had a chance to point out unintended consequences that may impact other members votes.
As I see from the responses, both methods can work. I studied this in some detail a few years ago, so I'm writing from memory (have your salt ready). As Robert's Rules of Order (RROO) formally presents it:
A member addresses the Chair and after being recognized states their motion. If seconded, the Chair announces it's up for discussion. Members speak to the motion stating whether they for or against it. After all have spoken a good Chair checks to see if there are any remaining comments.
A member may also "move the question" I think it's called, which if a majority of members vote to move it forward it goes immediately to the vote.
The last time I served as President I pulled "RROO Lite" off the internet. Source
dead link from www.ahmpnet.org 1. Types of Motions Robertâs Rules lists no fewer than 9 separate types of Motions, but these 5 are used most frequently for our Board, special, and annual meetings:
A. Main Motion â This is the method by which we will conduct business about a specific issue. Keep Main Motions, clear, concise, and complete to minimize Amendments. A Main Motion must be seconded. The motion will pass or fail if it received the votes required by the by-laws, Declaration or Washington laws. Usually it majority will pass the motion. On the Board, that will be two votes; during meetings of the owners each unitâs vote is proportional to the unitâs size, location, and other features.
B. Motion to Table â A Motion to Table an issue will suspend action on the motion until such time that the motion is re-entered as a Main Motion. A common reason to table a motion is if, during discussion, it is determined that more information is required before a decision can be made. A Motion to Table must be seconded and must pass by a simple majority. A Motion to Table will take precedence over a Main Motion, i.e. discussion of action on a Main Motion will be suspended until the period of time in the Motion to Table has expired and the Chair re-activates the Main Motion.
C. Motion to Adjourn or Recess â This motion is self-explanatory â the âon/off switchâ for the meeting. It must be seconded. A simple majority rules.
D. Point of Parliamentary Procedure (PPP) â This motion acts like a âholdâ button, and may be introduced as a âPoint of Clarification,â Point of Orderâ or âPoint of Informationâ. At anytime, any Board Member may ask for a PPP to get clarification on the business process or to address anything that makes them unable to fully participate. A PPP is automatic and must immediately be heard by the Chair. If the Chair rules that the PPP is not specific to a procedural point, he/she may terminate the PPP and return to regular business.
E. Motion to Suspend the Rules â This will be when a major point of discussion arises that will require lengthy discussion, or input from guests. An example may be for the Board to listen to a detailed report from a committee chair person; we will move for suspension of the rules for a specified period. The Chair will ask the speaker to estimate the time required. Then, the Chair will be responsible for controlling discussion during the suspension period. A second is required, and the motion to suspend must pass by a Supermajority. The Motion to Suspend should be used rarely and with caution.
2. Seconding Motions All motions, excluding Point of Parliamentary Procedure, must be seconded. (During Board meetings the process is more relaxed and seconds are not normally required.) The purpose of the second is twofold: 1) to affirm that the motion has sufficient support from another learned member to be considered, and 2) the person seconding the motion agrees with the scope, content, and form of the motion as presented. If the Main Motion is withdrawn by the person who presented the motion, then the person who seconded does not have to concur. It is the exclusive right of the person presenting the motion to withdraw a motion at any time for any reason, up until the motion is voted upon. Once the vote is called by the Chair, the motion is âin playâ and cannot be altered.
3. Amendments Amendments (also known as Friendly Amendments, or FA) are a commonly over-used tool to clarify motions put before the group. Only introduced during Discussion, FAs must be seconded and voted upon just like the Main Motion, and if approved, must be read as part of the Main Motion when the Main Motion comes for vote. The FA must be discussed and voted upon prior to completion of discussion and vote of the Main Motion. When FAs are attached to a Main Motion, it is up to the Chair to maintain control of all discussion and restate the amended Main Motion prior to vote. The person who presented the Main Motion may ask the Chair for an opportunity to Withdraw and Restate the Main Motion, rather than proceed with an unwieldy Main Motion and multiple FA configurations. It is the Chairâs discretion to allow or not to allow a maneuver to Withdraw and Restate.
4. Discussion After a Main Motion is made, or an Amendment offered, the Chair will call for Discussion. During the Discussion period, Board members may ask for the floor from the Chair to ask questions or make informative comments. Once granted the floor, Board members may make discussion points or ask questions of other Board members (or the person presenting the Motion). The amount of time spent in discussion may vary. The Chair is responsible for keeping the discussion effective and efficient; therefore the Chair may limit the time for discussion or the number of points allowed by each member. It is during Discussion that members must employ all their skills in debate, discussion and time awareness, and maintain focus. Decorum, respect, and good old-fashioned manners are critical skills in Discussion. Once the discussion is complete, or the Chair determines that time is a factor; the Chair will Call to Vote.
5. Voting Once the Chair requests a vote, the members will express their considered opinion regarding the motion at hand. The Chair will first ask âAll in Favorâ and the members will respond with either a voice vote or a show of hands (at the discretion of the Chair). The Chair will then ask for âAll Opposedâ, with voice or hand voting. If the total of the âayesâ and the ânaysâ is less than the total number of voters present, the Chair will ask for âAll In Abstentionâ, with voice or hand voting. If a member does not respond to any of the requests, then their vote will be recorded as an Abstention. The chair also votes. Once the voting is completed, the Chair will announce whether the motion has carried or it has been defeated, and continue with the next business item. The Chair may wish to keep the current item open for a time to wait for a restated motion (in the event of failure).