ArtieM (Florida)
Posts: 7
Posts: 7
Posted:
As the law in Florida requires governing documents to be recorded with the county for them to be effective, is it possible for an officer of the association or the manager to veto a duly passed amendment by refusing to actually record the amendment?
I have an interesting predicament. Late into a board term, amendments to the bylaws were adopted. All required notices, quorum, minutes, etc have been met. The documents were signed and executed by the directors and copies were sent to all homeowners with the annual meeting packet. The manager was requested to submit the amendments to be filed as it has in the past. The annual meeting was conducted in accordance with the bylaws as amended. However, this was a culmination of a 16-month review of all the governing documents to clean up obsolete language and bring the association in compliance with the law (you'd be surprised what the prior board got away with), the association participated in the draft reviews. Unfortunately due to illness the manager who supported the board efforts left, and turnover issues with the firm had us see 3 cams in the last 8 months, the last of which held a 180 degree opposite view of the first manager of the board's efforts. The end of the term and vacations were approaching and no more meetings were scheduled for the current board, with two directors not seeking re-election (myself included). It was at this point, despite having two months too review drafts before the final passage, the manager raised an objection to some language in the bylaws. A line unmodified by the amendment and still identical to the original developer version. Because of this, the manager was not going to help file the amendment and I reached out to the association attorney to help. Unfortunately, the help came too late and a new board was seated. At the first meeting of the new board, the manager advised the newly seated board to assume the prior bylaws amendment (the ones they were elected under) are null-and-void as if they never happened. And they should repeal everything the prior board did. Now I don't object to board review. They have every right as any board to amend documents and policies as long as they vote and do so in properly held meetings. We have nothing to hide. However, one of our rogue directors returned to service, got elected, and convinced the new board to make them president. So the new president and manager are refusing to allow the association to record its duly passed governing documents. Ugg.
Questions:
1. Is there any recourse to this? other than to wait a year and try to vote the rogue directors out?
2. Is there a duty by the association officers to record amendments to the governing documents within a deadline?
3. Could the prior board president or secretary simply record the governing document themselves bypassing the manager?
4. What if we are talking about a Declaration amendment passed by a super majority of the owners.... Can the board president, secretary, simply refuse to sign the document vetoing the community. (of course, they can be voted out/or recalled )
I have an interesting predicament. Late into a board term, amendments to the bylaws were adopted. All required notices, quorum, minutes, etc have been met. The documents were signed and executed by the directors and copies were sent to all homeowners with the annual meeting packet. The manager was requested to submit the amendments to be filed as it has in the past. The annual meeting was conducted in accordance with the bylaws as amended. However, this was a culmination of a 16-month review of all the governing documents to clean up obsolete language and bring the association in compliance with the law (you'd be surprised what the prior board got away with), the association participated in the draft reviews. Unfortunately due to illness the manager who supported the board efforts left, and turnover issues with the firm had us see 3 cams in the last 8 months, the last of which held a 180 degree opposite view of the first manager of the board's efforts. The end of the term and vacations were approaching and no more meetings were scheduled for the current board, with two directors not seeking re-election (myself included). It was at this point, despite having two months too review drafts before the final passage, the manager raised an objection to some language in the bylaws. A line unmodified by the amendment and still identical to the original developer version. Because of this, the manager was not going to help file the amendment and I reached out to the association attorney to help. Unfortunately, the help came too late and a new board was seated. At the first meeting of the new board, the manager advised the newly seated board to assume the prior bylaws amendment (the ones they were elected under) are null-and-void as if they never happened. And they should repeal everything the prior board did. Now I don't object to board review. They have every right as any board to amend documents and policies as long as they vote and do so in properly held meetings. We have nothing to hide. However, one of our rogue directors returned to service, got elected, and convinced the new board to make them president. So the new president and manager are refusing to allow the association to record its duly passed governing documents. Ugg.
Questions:
1. Is there any recourse to this? other than to wait a year and try to vote the rogue directors out?
2. Is there a duty by the association officers to record amendments to the governing documents within a deadline?
3. Could the prior board president or secretary simply record the governing document themselves bypassing the manager?
4. What if we are talking about a Declaration amendment passed by a super majority of the owners.... Can the board president, secretary, simply refuse to sign the document vetoing the community. (of course, they can be voted out/or recalled )