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MarcoS2 (Washington)
Posts: 27
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Questions for all member here who feel they can provide guidance ....we are a 3 person Board (+ Architectural Committee 1 person) for a 93 property neighborhood, our CC&Rs have been in place since 1969, and have been revised and/or amended 5 times since then, but they are legally binding, filed with our county auditor and all homeowners here realize & understand our neighborhood is guided by our CC&Rs.....so, when a homeowner asks for relief from an adjacent homeowner in clear violation of the CC&Rs, our process is to send a formal letter to the offending homeowner and let them know they need to fix / correct the issue, and to formally let the board know they have .....1st question: should there be a time frame that the Board gives the offending homeowner on the initial letter? like "you have 14 days to comply" ......2nd question: if the offending homeowner does not comply, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP ?? .....we have a "very" loose Board, been that way for decades, enforcement highly loose as well, our new board wants to tighten things up and get a bit more serious with anybody who is not complying with / in violation of our CC&Rs and how we handle it ....we do not have a attorney retained, this HOA may have at some point in the past, but not now .....that said, is Step 2: send another letter letting offending homeowner know that since you did not reply, you now have so many days to comply, or the Board will begin to assess a daily fine until you are in compliance, also mentioning that if we do have to take legal action, once settled, you (the offending homeowner) will be responsible for court costs and attorney fees once the matter is settled (the fine levy for noncompliance, and being responsible for court & attorney fees, IS called out in our CC&Rs) .....I am just trying to find out the consensus of correct & proper steps to take when we have a homeowner in violation of our CC&Rs, and moreover, we have a homeowner asking the Board for relief from the offending homeowner ....THANK YOU very much for the assist & education -
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
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Posted By MarcoS2 on 07/12/2020 2:31 PM
our process is to send a formal letter to the offending homeowner and let them know they need to fix / correct the issue, and to formally let the board know they have .....1st question: should there be a time frame that the Board gives the offending homeowner on the initial letter? like "you have 14 days to comply"
Absolutely put in the letter a timeframe for curing the violation.

Posted By MarcoS2 on 07/12/2020 2:31 PM
2nd question: if the offending homeowner does not comply, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP ??
Where state law and the governing documents allow fines, the HOA should create a schedule of fines; publicize it thoroughly for three months; then start imposing fines pursuant to the schedule. One of the fines should be for failure to cure a violation within X days.

In the letter, do include the part about CC&R Section ___ requiring that the HOA impose attorney's fees et cetera.

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Posted By MarcoS2 on 07/12/2020 2:31 PM
we have a "very" loose Board, been that way for decades, enforcement highly loose as well,
This may be a huge problem all by itself. If certain covenants were not enforced for many years, and other conditions are met, the courts may deem the covenant "abandoned" and unenforceable.

All your board can do is try to enforce the covenants and see which members say, "Nope. You cannot lawfully enforce xyz covenant at this point."
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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You do need to know your state's laws on this. In Cali, for instance, we must call alleged violators to hearings with 15 days notice so they can tell their side of the story.

Sometimes these steps are in Bylaws or Rules & Regs.

How much time to "cure" a violation in your intitil letter depends, it seems to me, on what it is that needs fixing. If a large project, you probably should allow more time than if minor.

I'm in a condo building though and violations here are mostly nosy partiers.

DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
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Good advice so far. To Augustin's point, if you have authority to impose fines, then you need to understand how to do that correctly and start doing it.

If you can't impose fines, forcing compliance can be more difficult. My last association was told by an attorney that their docs did not allow fining, so realistically the only way to really enforce would be to sue. Since most owners didn't know this, they generally complied when the board sent a violation notice. If they didn't voluntarily comply, the board generally gave up since very few issues were worth the cost of legal action, given the possibly that a judge would not rule in our favor.

One of our early board members was a circuit court judge, she handled criminal cases so didn't deal with HOA suits, but knew judges who did. In one case an association sued a homeowner who didn't follow the allowed color chart when repainting their house. The judge pretty much blew up, saying "not another petty HOA suit" and dismissed the case. Don't count on judges to rule in favor of an association even if the HOA is technically correct.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Marco

Some generalities:

There must be a published fining schedule. It does not have to list each individual offense but has to list fines. Typically $25.00 for first offense and doubles every 30 days. Second offense, regardless of time frame, the fine is doubled, etc.

Any time limit should be fair as in removing a sign, 72 hours. Painting a fence, 14 days, etc. Just be fair.

Typically a Lien can be filed for unpaid fines. This usually shakes a person up. In many states a lawyer is not required to file a Lien in Officer of the BOD can do such for less that $100.00.

In some states you cannot foreclose based on fines but is some states you can. Check this out.

In some states an offender has to be offered a BOD hearing before fines can commence.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
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Not sure about other states, but in Florida an association cannot Lien for fines.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By GeorgeS21 on 07/13/2020 5:35 PM
Not sure about other states, but in Florida an association cannot Lien for fines.

Varies by State.
Check your local statutes to be sure.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By GeorgeS21 on 07/13/2020 5:35 PM
Not sure about other states, but in Florida an association cannot Lien for fines.

We have had opinions from two lawyers.

One said he would not care to end up in court over the issue. It could be time consuming and expensive. He also said as fines can be arbitrary, he feels the judge would say fines cannot be used as part of a foreclosure.

Another lawyer said it is simple. Just apply dues paid to any outstanding fines first then the balance to dues owed. The dues owed will be short and a valid reason for legal action.

In SC we can lien based on fines.

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