Salaries for On Site Prop. Managers AND Off Site Prop.Managers

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EricaM (Washington)
Posts: 2

Posted:

If condominium communities have BOTH on-site and off-site property managers, what ratio is used generally for salaries? The off-site manager pays bills and sends out violation letters. The on-site manager just watches over the community in general. Both are employed under the same Management Firm. We have 200 units. With the new year coming up, we really could use some help.

Thanks

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671

Posted:

Doesn't the management company pay them a salary, depending on their responsibilities and hours? They are responsible for their FICA , unemployment and Fed. taxes. I wouldn't think that you have to deal with that until the M.C. contract shows up.

EricaM (Washington)
Posts: 2

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Believe it or not, somehow the community has been paying not only a large salary for the off-site manager and has been conveniently paying the on-site property manager's full health benefits,yearly vacations,bonuses,mtg.payment for the unit AND a salary higher than the off-site manager!

Somehow the property management company has no contract for the on-site manager. They don't even have a job description for him! I recently just found out that the on-site propery manager is an employee of the same company we utilize for the off-site management (which by the way, charges the normal and customary fees associated with off-site management -$15-18per unit/mo.). The rest of the board has coasted along, not EVEN aware of his assoc. with the Management company. It is crazy! The on-site manager has been here, living quite large on our nickel, for over 20 years.

Usually the off-site property manager takes care of everything for a flat fee, right? It is so hard to understand the justification for the off-site property manager's position here, especially when he is paid more than each board member makes AND the community has to pay the normal rates for the off-site manager.

If anyone lives in a condominium community and has BOTH on and off-site managers, can you please give some basic guidelines with regards to pay/duties/job descriptions of each?

help

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067

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Erica, I believe the problem is you and the rest of the Board members. Quit blaming the managers and their management company. Why are you complaining when the problem to me appears to be with the choices made by the Board? If the Board doesn't like their choices then they can chose to change. If your association is actually paying the on-site manager as an employee, which I doubt, get rid of them. Have a management company handle property management and employ the personnel.

Didn't your Board elect to use this management company? Didn't your Board chose to have two managers? Didn't your Board agree to the management company's fees? Didn't your Board chose to provide free living space to the onsite managing Agent?

NancyD1 (Florida)
Posts: 447

Posted:

I agree with Roger. This is outrageous that the boards of your HOA have been this ignorant for 20 YEARS!! To have 2 managers for such a small property is ridiculous.

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