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LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Members of our North Carolina condominium HOA were charged a $1,000 special assessment for wood rot on buildings - a total of $124,000. There is no structural report or proof, permit, inspections on work started on 2 building by an unlicensed contractor (charges so far $11,900). I have confirmed work isn't even code compliant and would never have passed inspection.
I have attached a picture of our Bylaw section for special assessment. This assessment was not voted on so it never had 51% approval.
Am I correct that this is a Breach of the Fiduciary Duties of the HOA Board?
(who are now legally enforcing liens on Owners that still owe money).
MarkW18
Posts: 1,290
Posted:
There is a slim possibility that this could be considered an emergency special assessment which may or may not require membership approval.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
The unlicensed contractor charged the $11,900 to remove vinyl siding and put on Tyvek housewrap...did not pull any permit/did not attach per specifications (even I can Google Tyvek Installation Instructions)/didn't overlap or tape seams/cut out and stapled around windows and doors without sealing.

I just wanted to make sure I was correct in my understanding of the Bylaws legal terminology.

HOA President said we didn't get to vote because repairs don't require 51% vote for assessment. All 15 buildings were build between 1995 - 2003 all at different times. There is not any structural report verifying this wood rot and "building would collapse". If it was true, I would have voted for it.

We have 3 board members left (others 5 resigned because of President)...and all their terms are currently expired due to Covid-19 and annual meeting postponement.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Wood Rot Special Assessment is actually "on hold" now because of a building fire and HOA President wanted HOA to buyout those condos and keep the rest of Fire proceed (which Property Management's Attorney said he couldn't do).
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
To add on to Mark's comments - begin by reading your documents to see what it says (I didn't see an attachment on your original message).

Secondly, did you ask these questions of your board (if not, why not?) Assuming you have written proof of the contractor being unlicensed, no permit, work doesn't meet the building code, etc., did you show that to the board? If so, what was the response?

If you have proof of all this, you may be able to file a complaint with the agency that enforces the building code - they may send an inspector to see the work and if you're right, the city or county can order the work stopped. Of course, this may also mean more money to get the work redone properly. The association may also find it has to pay a fine if there was no building permit and the work didn't meet the code, so there may be more costs on top of the $124K that the homeowners will have to pay for.

For what it's worth, I agree the board's conduct was improper - as fiduciaries, they have a duty to manage the association's resources in a responsible and prudent manner. That doesn't mean mistakes won't happen, but when you're talking about roofing work, one should expect the board display due diligence like obtaining bids (at least three), checking the records of all the companies for licensing and bonding information, reading the contracts before they're signed, etc.

And if your documents require homeowner approval of special assessments (most do), but the board didn't follow those procedures, that's another reason for you and your neighbors to call a special meeting to recall everyone. This will also mean you need to have people ready to step up and take over (and one might need to be YOU). Start rallying your neighbors together and good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MarkW18
Posts: 1,290
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LeisaK on 04/22/2020 1:31 PM
Wood Rot Special Assessment is actually "on hold" now because of a building fire and HOA President wanted HOA to buyout those condos and keep the rest of Fire proceed (which Property Management's Attorney said he couldn't do).

The association should never, repeat, never be using the property management company's attorney, EVER.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarkW18 on 04/22/2020 1:36 PM
Posted By LeisaK on 04/22/2020 1:31 PM
Wood Rot Special Assessment is actually "on hold" now because of a building fire and HOA President wanted HOA to buyout those condos and keep the rest of Fire proceed (which Property Management's Attorney said he couldn't do).


The association should never, repeat, never be using the property management company's attorney, EVER.

What MarkW18 said. The PM's attorney has a conflict of interest.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Here the section...
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LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I'm happy to step up. It's been a weird year with a bun of assessments out of the blue and HOA Board Members quitting...and Homeowners didn't know. The HOA President has an Investment company (never lived here) and stepped into the role when other quit - got last 2 board members to vote/agree him as President and it's been drama and chaos ever since.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I want to thank everyone so very much for all the incredibly helpful advice...I never dealt with anything like this before and we have retired people who live here with a President moving forward with liens, legal fees, and (sadly) excited about foreclosing on these people's property.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thank you for that advice!

This all started from prior wood damage was due to Hurricane/roof damage water leakage...it was not an ongoing building issue, nor were those repairs ever a large amount of money (viewing those balance sheet statements)

This is the wording from the assessment letter that was sent out:

Dear Homeowner:

(REDACTED) Condominiums has determined that most of the buildings in the community are experiencing some wood rot due to the improper installation of the vinyl siding and the lack of house wrap between the vinyl siding and the building structure. The Association just completed the removal of vinyl siding, repair of wood rot and installation of house wrap on several buildings in the community. The Association wants to complete this work for the remaining buildings in the community. The estimated cost to complete this work is $125,000.00. The Board of Directors voted at their meeting on March 27, 2019 to authorize a special assessment against each unit owner in the amount of $1,000.00 per unit to address the wood rot issues in the remaining buildings.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Lei

the section you highlighted does not apply to you situation. It is for alterations and improvements none of which are the reason for the special assessment.

You are searching for reasons not to pay it versus being concerned your building are rotting.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I've already paid mine, I've just found there wasn't any wood rot damage on these newer buildings.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
There is a lack of proper house wrap. Which once the water pierces through the siding, will cause rot. Which can be hidden to the naked eye. Your basically going to let the wood rot on the homes outside in. This can cause mold issues and drafts.

I've helped build over 25 houses. House wrap should be applied in one continuous wrap. Not necessarily "piece" together. However, it may not be possible on already existing construction. That would require entire removal of ALL the siding and putting it back on again. It's a good sizeable expense in labor and materials.

There is a guy on YouTube who bought an abandoned house. It was left undone for 20 years. The exterior was finished and was covered in beautiful rock. It turns out it wasn't done right and all the rock had to be taken down along with much of the framing/exterior walls. The house looked great on the outside. The inside the boards could poke a hole with a knife.

So I would be concerned not doing this work when you have a chance. It also may not be something that needs a permit to be pulled. Some jobs don't require it. If your that concerned, you can always call the building department and report it. They have to see it to fine it.

Former HOA President
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
i'm pretty sure the board is required to send notice of the meeting at which the vote on special assessment was to occur..

this is where owners can show up and ask all the questions..

voting on a special assessment without the agenda of the meeting where the vote was to take place is almost universally rejected.. Unless it was an emergency repair.. however.. beware of boards abusing the "emergency" term

In my experience boards will take actions without the required notification requirements because they are so used to no owners participating anyway. However certain actions require notification of the owners. And the board has no right to bypass the notification requirements because they think they know better.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
I just read the attachment,

to be clear. If this is just a regular special assessment,, not caused by storm damage or insureable event.. then the clause you attached is likely what would apply.

the board will claim the assessment was maintenance and repair,, section A above what you highlighted.

which does not require owner approval.. but i believe the meeting at which the vote was taken does require notification to owners..

that's the entire purpose of the open meetings act and notification and agenda requirements for upcoming meetings.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarkW18 on 04/22/2020 1:36 PM
The association should never, repeat, never be using the property management company's attorney, EVER.

As an aside, a couple of years ago in Florida the Condo (and maybe the HOA) statute was changed to make doing that illegal. An association could not hire the same attorney as its property management company. In what I thought was a fishy move, the legislature revoked that prohibition the following year. Lobbying by PMs and various attorneys were apparently the reason, but it was never explained clearly what was behind the decision to undo it.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thank you for that insight, I will look into it!
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
There was nothing sent to owners regarding this, just the assessment letter stating they voted/approved this and we all have to pay $1,000.

That's where I have an issue...I haven't seen any exterior wood rot replaced, only incorrectly installed Tyvek...then vinyl siding re-attached over it. That's when I questioned it not being inspected and went to our city permit portal and saw no active permits. I observed a non-compliant, un-inspected "alteration/improvement" billed at $11,900...not maintenance/repair. This is what made me question the legitimacy and need for 51% Homeowners vote.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Still sounds like maintenance to me.
LeisaK (North Carolina)
Posts: 20
Posted:
If the HOA Board gets an attorney, should the Property Management Company Owner and employees be involved in any Attorney/HOA Board Meetings?
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
OK ... so two topics here:

1. Assessment - whether correctly administered
2. Assessment - whether required membership vote
3. Attorney - who hired and who do they report to

Correct?

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