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LuisR4 (Florida)
Posts: 2
Posted:
We are currently updating our HOA documents. There is an enclosure that states there should be a sidewalk on the three lots on my street. Two lots have homes on them and one does not. My house was the first house built as a model home 15 year ago. According to the documents, the developer was to install the sidewalk. Here we are 15 years later and now they want to enforce this. I have been in the house for two years and it was not disclosed to me during the buying process. The HOA sighted that it could be a liability if a kid got hit by a car while walking on the street. Our neighborhood only has partial sidewalks in two areas and many roads without sidewalks and not required to have them. Because we are a gated private community, the city does not enforce sidewalks, rather they provide guidance on how to build them. The HOA's Statue of Limitations I have been told is 5 years for enforcement. Since this sidewalk was not installed by the developer, could I be liable for this installation after 15 years?

Thanks
Luis
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
That's a legal question you should run past your attorney, since most of us aren't attorneys. A chat with your insurance company might also be a good idea as well.

All of that said, if you knew the developer was supposed to build the sidewalk, why didn't you go after them 15 YEARS AGO to get that done? If you weren't the original owner, you knew it wasn't there when you bought the place - didn't you ask the previous owners about that? Perhaps you could have insisted they build the sidewalk before the house changed hands or ask they drop the price accordingly and you could have built it.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
You have partial sidewalks, and some don’t want to complete them so they all connect?

Seriously?
WalterH4 (Indiana)
Posts: 145
Posted:
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Posted By LuisR4 on 04/15/2020 3:36 PM
We are currently updating our HOA documents. There is an enclosure that states there should be a sidewalk on the three lots on my street. Two lots have homes on them and one does not. My house was the first house built as a model home 15 year ago. According to the documents, the developer was to install the sidewalk. Here we are 15 years later and now they want to enforce this. I have been in the house for two years and it was not disclosed to me during the buying process. The HOA sighted that it could be a liability if a kid got hit by a car while walking on the street. Our neighborhood only has partial sidewalks in two areas and many roads without sidewalks and not required to have them. Because we are a gated private community, the city does not enforce sidewalks, rather they provide guidance on how to build them. The HOA's Statue of Limitations I have been told is 5 years for enforcement. Since this sidewalk was not installed by the developer, could I be liable for this installation after 15 years?

Thanks
Luis

What does the neighborhood in general think about this? Is this something that the board simply thought of; or is it something that matches neighborhood general opinion? If the neighbors in general side with you, one easy solution is to just oust them at the next election if you are willing to run. That would solve your problem another way, if you are willing.

Otherwise, I agree with what others have said regarding this being a legal and insurance matter, that requires local expert advice. I just hate speaking with attorneys at $300/hr, and so my preference would be to figure out if the neighbors are siding with me or against me. If they are generally against you, then maybe you should just comply, as resisting may be an uphill battle, and compliance would be a good improvement.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
You definitely need to consult with a lawyer on this one. Ask the lawyer this, Shouldn't this have been brought up when the declarant was turning over the HOA to the owners? Shouldn't this have been an issue before the original property manager and board signed off to release the bond? Well since the original property manager was hand picked by the declarant, nobody cared and the declarant wanted to scadattle..
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Is the property considered "Common" or it is your own? What kind of easement may the HOA have? This may be a HOA project that will need your permission to complete. I'd find that out.

Former HOA President
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
LuisR4, first, the Declaration typically has a section that states who (HOA or individual owner) has the maintenance responsibility for various items. Does your Declaration have such a section? And if so, are sidewalks mentioned in it? Please quote verbatim what your Declaration says.

Second, let's assume the plats (on file with the county), show a sidewalk on your lot. It appears that courts have often (but not always?) found that plats represent an implied restrictive covenant. As you noted, under some circumstances courts can and have ruled that covenants that have not been enforced for years may be considered legally abandoned. The exact number of years of non-enforcement, that must pass for a covenant to be considered abandoned, is rarely, if ever, black and white. But I would say that 10 years passing means you are safe.

If the assumptions I list above prove to be true, then I would write your HOA a letter like the following:

Dear Board of Directors,

Would you please quote the legal authority for concluding that my lot's failure to have a sidewalk is a violation of the HOA's covenants, conditions and restrictions? I could be mistaken but, right now, I am not sure that there is any authority.

I believe that, even if there is a covenant or plat restriction that shows that I, as owner of my lot, have the responsibility for maintaining a sidewalk on my lot, then pursuant to the citations below, I believe this covenant or plat restriction has been abandoned, due to a failure to enforce it for some 15 years; the lack of a sidewalk having been open and obvious for some 15 years; and other lots also lacking a sidewalk.

I am not sure Florida statute 720.305 requires a hearing at this point. Still I think having a hearing would help resolve this dispute. Would you please give me three days when you are available for a hearing so that I may present my side and the HOA may present its side?

Sincerely,

Luis ____
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Citations:
-- https://home.howstuffworks.com/real-estate/buying-home/is-there-way-out-of-restrictive-covenant1.htm

-- https://www.hopb.co/blog/simply-unenforceable-hoa-covenants-and-how-they-can-go-too-far

-- Prisco v. Forest Villas Condominium Apartments, Inc., 847 So. 2d 1012, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District, April 30, 2003.

-- Woodlands Civic Ass’n, Inc. v. Darrow 765 So. 2d 874 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 5th Dist. 2000).

-- https://www.law.ufl.edu/_pdf/academics/centers-clinics/clinics/conservation/resources/urbancon.pdf
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Send the letter certified mail, return receipt requested. When the HOA responds, report back here.

WalterH4 (Indiana)
Posts: 145
Posted:
AugustinD, you deserve another heart-felt hug. You are amazing; thank you for being you. The world (and this site for sure) is a better place because of you. You amaze me.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
WalterH4, I think this is an interesting situation. You're kind.
BenA2 (Texas)
Posts: 1,273
Posted:
I think the HOA is being unreasonable asking you to install a sidewalk after letting it go for 15 years. If the five year statute of limitations applies to this situation, they would not be able to enforce it. Of course, an attorney would be the best person to answer if the statute of limitation applies.

Personally, I would refuse (explaining your reasons) and put the ball in their court. If they fine or sue you then I would consult an attorney.
LuisR4 (Florida)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thanks for all the great comments. I sent a letter to all of the neighbors to get everyone's feel for the sidewalks. The consensus is that people don't want them and do not use the ones installed. We are such a small neighborhood with only 55 lots and currently 25 homes. It is developing very slowly and most folks either walk or run on the streets since there is very little traffic. There seems to be one member of the board that is acting as Jeff Dunham and the other two just following along. Everyone states the same thing. If we are to have sidewalks with a liability concern in mind, then we should have sidewalks on every street. The again, there are plenty of neighborhoods without any sidewalks at all. Hopefully we will meet in the not too distant future and will update. Thanks again for all of the support.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
I’m smiling - part sidewalks ... does having partial sidewalks seem like a good idea?

I’m imaging driving around in the neighborhood thinking about buying a house ... then my spouse tells me, “Honey, only some of the houses have sidewalks ... isn’t that odd?”
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
For many years the main street bordering our community didn't have sidewalks and so people had to walk on the street. That became a problem over the years as more condo complexes and apartment complexes were built, but the city kept saying there wasn't enough money (there were lots of neighborhoods around town in the same position).

That thinking changed when more and more people found themselves dodging cars - some were doing the speed limit and some were speeding. In my area, citizens finally said enough after two women living in the senior citizen apartment across the street from my community were victims of hit and runs (both died) and we got sidewalks built.

I understand debating the legalities of compelling people to build sidewalks after 15 years, but I have to agree with George - to me partial sidewalks make the neighborhood look unfinished and rather tacky, so I'd hesitate to buy a home there.

That said, I agree with first finding out if the sidewalks were intended to be common areas. If so, it seems to me the board needs to bite the bullet and figure out a way to get them built. To control costs, it could consider gradually installing them over a two or three year period.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ShirleyC (California)
Posts: 117
Posted:
They should have put the sidewalk in the escrow documents when you purchased your home.

That does not sound like something that would be added to the cc&d's or bylaws
What document are they changing?

Are they changing a document without a vote of the HOA membership owners?

Vote them out is th e best way to take care of this.

GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
I’m not sure voting anyone out is going to result in a neighborhood with sidewalks ... if the point is to have a lower price neighborhood, then vote everyone out, and go hide.

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