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WalterH4 (Indiana)
Posts: 145
Posted:
Right now we're over paying for lawn care. The common areas are small, and so most of the cost is associated with them traveling to/from and unpacking/repacking their mowing gear.

Our overall HOA budget is $25K with 100 homes, and $6K goes to lawn care (25%). It's the single-most costly part of our budget. The area mowed in total is about 0.4 acre, split into two parts.

In our HOA, we have retired individuals or just those with extra free time that enjoy lawn care.

Here are the ideas we're juggling now:

1. Alternate the volunteer each month, and for 2 months of lawn care, they are forgiven their $250 HOA dues. Effectively, they earn $30/week for mowing a 0.4 acre. We can reduce our budget from $6,000 down to $1000 pretty easily here, saving 20% of our dues.

2. Or, we could have one person get bonded/insured and become a 1099 contractor, and do the whole thing for $1500.

Thoughts?

Main question is regarding the legality of the "forgiving HOA dues in return for the service" ... how sticky of an issue is that? We'd never do this without super majority support behind it.
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
I would be very, very, wary of "forgiving dues" to the point of telling you not to do so. There are a number of downstream consequences which could wind up costing you far more than what you realize in savings.

If you wish to hire an owner as a 1099 contractor, that is a much better process to follow. Some thoughts:

-ensure the person is bonded
-ensure the person is self-insured
-consult with the association attorney, insurance agent, and CPA
-ensure the Association has a Workers Compensation insurance policy
-determine your alternatives if the person retained becomes ill, injured, goes on vacation, etc.
-have a written agreement which describes the scope of work to be performed, the schedule, responsibility for damages, etc.
-the agreement must specify which party is responsible for the equipment used to perform the work
-use a bidding process rather than simply awarding the contract to one party or the other

Remember, this person is an Association contractor who happens to be an owner in the Association. He or she should be 'managed' as is any other contractor with no special favors or considerations given because he or she is an owner, including the communications process between the owner/contractor and other owners, the Board, and the property manager if you have one.
WalterH4 (Indiana)
Posts: 145
Posted:
BillH - thank you for the response. What downstream consequences do you have in mind? (for dues forgiveness)

The upside of forgiveness is that we fully avoid taxes (16% FICA, plus state, plus Federal) -- instead of being wages, it's simply "cost avoidance" for the home owner.

And at $30/week it won't make anyone envious.

I think we can simply have them sign a waver similar to what parents have to sign for their kids before they can play sports, etc.

"I assume my own risks; I use my own equipment; I am volunteering to do this job without compensation, other than the tax-free benefit of not having to pay HOA dues. I am not a contractor; I am just a volunteer."

And then we'd just have to ensure that our normal liability insurance (that we already have) would cover the case where someone else might have gotten hurt as a result of the mowing (some crazy unlikely accident).

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If this idea is too whacked out, we won't attempt it. I was only bringing it up to see if anyone else has seen or tried a similar arrangement -- forgiving HOA dues gives virtual compensation without taxation.
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
Hi Walter,

The second option may be the safer option. I can see how waiving HOA fees for a few individuals may create issues among other homeowners. It could be a slippery slope. If you do want to proceed with the first option, speak with an attorney first.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
No, no, and Hell to the Naw (thanks Whitney Houston!) to compensating volunteers.

Your HOA budget is based on ALL the homeowners paying in full and on time every month, or however often you pay it, and when you issue credits like this, this can throw off the entire budget because you still have to cover all the homes.

Next, the key word here is VOLUNTEER - when you issue credits, you'll also have to issue tax forms because the HOA dues forgiveness is a form of income they'd have to declare on their taxes. That causes too much of a headache in paper and other things.

Finally, depending on what else is on this 0.4 acre, there could be other things to consider besides cutting the grass. Like edging. Or raking the leaves in the fall. Or applying weed killer/grub control. What else does that $6K cover - do you expect the volunteers to do all of that as well? If so, you'll need to buy supplies - where will you store it and ensure someone isn't using it for his/her own lawn care?

Regarding the legal side of this, you'll have to go to your association attorney for that because most of us aren't lawyers- and you already know that. If you feel you're paying "too much" for lawn care, it seems to me you and your board colleagues need to do a better job in vetting lawn care companies regarding price. You may not need to use a huge lawn care company, but I'm sure there are plenty of small landscaping companies that you can work with for a more affordable price. One thing you might consider is the frequency of lawn mowing. In our community, we reduce mowing to once a week when the grass grows more slowly (summer, I think) and that's how we reduced the cost a bit.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
No nay never to owner/volunteers and forgiving dues payments. I suggest you shop for a less expensive landscaping company. Never let anyone work on your property that is not licensed and insured. You are asking for trouble with everything you suggest.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By WalterH4 on 04/08/2020 10:07 AM

The upside of forgiveness is that we fully avoid taxes (16% FICA, plus state, plus Federal) -- instead of being wages, it's simply "cost avoidance" for the home owner.

forgiving HOA dues gives virtual compensation without taxation.

I don't think the IRS agrees with this. For tax purposes, forgoing money owed is no different than any other compensation. Technically, even bartering is considered income. If you pay someone in chickens, they should get a 1099 with fair market value of the chickens.

Anyone who receives over $600 a year in compensation should get a 1099.

I would also suggest to stop using the term "volunteer" for homeowners who are compensated in any form.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
ND (PA)
Posts: 792
Posted:
As others mentioned, you can't forgive assessments, and if you pay them for the work, it's not volunteer work and you get into employment and tax considerations. Suggest looking for a small licensed/insured landscape operation located in very close proximity to your HOA . . . especially since you may have other landscape requirements beyond grass cutting.

The most workable situation would likely be a person/people actually volunteering their personal time to cut the grass for nothing other than the satisfaction of making it look good and saving their entire HOA money. The only money they could receive (if permitted by your docs) is reimbursement for money spent doing the work (e.g., gas for mower, mileage reimbursement to/from gas station, etc.).

While hiring a licensed/insured service provider is the best scenario, there may be ways to lessen the HOA's exposure and liability if a homeowner volunteer were to cut the grass. Maybe HOA buys all necessary PPE and volunteer signs something saying they will use the PPE, that they'll operate equipment IAW manuals, etc. Also some sort of liability release could be signed. Training could be paid for by HOA. I know we're only talking about grass cutting, but if this is done, you should limit all possible liability to the lowest possible factor. And consult with a lawyer on how best to execute.

HOA could/should also look into supplying and maintaining the equipment used (so it's not someone's personal equipment).

You could even investigate robotic mowers. Someone maybe just needs to stand by and watch the mower do its thing. But then someone has to handle, and recharge the mower too. Logistics considerations there as well.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Agree with other and JohnC says it succinctly & best.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
One more reason for not compensating volunteers:

Volunteers for nonprofit organizations are protected by the Volunteer Protection Act, which means that they are not liable for harm caused by an act or omission of the volunteer on behalf of the organization or entity. If you pay them, they're no longer volunteers and lose these important protections. And waiving assessments is a hard "no". Assessments are spelled out in your CC&Rs, which form part of the contract people signed when they bought their home. The board has no legal authority to change this.

Right now you have a budget problem. You can: 1. do a better job of getting competitive bids; 2. reduce the amount of work you expect the lawn care service to perform in order to lower costs; and 3. raise your assessments to where they need to be to pay the bills.

As others mentioned, there are real issues with using volunteers to perform manual labor. The big one is the liability the HOA incurs. In order to address this properly, you would need to boost your insurance coverage and that costs money - which is counterproductive if you're attempting to address a budget shortfall.

Volunteers are also unlikely to give you professional quality work. Reputable lawn care services will provide some types of guarantees or warranties with their work. If things aren't done satisfactorily, you can get them back to re-do things at their expense. If you tell a volunteer that his work isn't up to snuff, he may well tell you to stuff it. And volunteers tend to get to things on their own schedules, unlike lawn care services that will sign a contract for a certain number of grass cuttings, lawn treatments, and the like.

You can probably tell that I'm not a fan of using volunteers for things like this. Our current board is using volunteers to supplement the work of the lawn care company, and the community is beginning to look like it. There is also the practical issue of getting enough volunteers and getting them to commit to a regular schedule. Most people don't move to HOAs (and especially COAs) with the goal of doing yard work.

Bite the bullet and do it right.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Absolutely NYET!
WalterH4 (Indiana)
Posts: 145
Posted:
Thanks everyone. No arguments here. We'll pay an insured contractor, and maybe look for a cheaper one.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Never ever ever never ever compensate anyone not paying dues. Dues are the HOA's income!!! Plus if that person decides to get angry at the HOA and stop paying, at what point do you lien/foreclose? The dues were "forgiven" so where is the starting point?

Never hire a contractor that isn't licensed/insured to touch a thing in your HOA. Let's say you decide to ask a homeowner to fix an outlet in the clubhouse. They short it out. The clubhouse burns down. Guess who pays to replace the clubhouse? It's why companies are licensed and insured...

Former HOA President
PaulJ6
Posts: 990
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By WalterH4 on 04/08/2020 8:30 AM
Right now we're over paying for lawn care. The common areas are small, and so most of the cost is associated with them traveling to/from and unpacking/repacking their mowing gear.

Our overall HOA budget is $25K with 100 homes, and $6K goes to lawn care (25%). It's the single-most costly part of our budget. The area mowed in total is about 0.4 acre, split into two parts.

In our HOA, we have retired individuals or just those with extra free time that enjoy lawn care.

Here are the ideas we're juggling now:

1. Alternate the volunteer each month, and for 2 months of lawn care, they are forgiven their $250 HOA dues. Effectively, they earn $30/week for mowing a 0.4 acre. We can reduce our budget from $6,000 down to $1000 pretty easily here, saving 20% of our dues.

2. Or, we could have one person get bonded/insured and become a 1099 contractor, and do the whole thing for $1500.

Thoughts?

Main question is regarding the legality of the "forgiving HOA dues in return for the service" ... how sticky of an issue is that? We'd never do this without super majority support behind it.

I'd do 2. Have the board approve the arrangement with disclosure in the board minutes that the arrangement is with a HOA member, and have the board minutes state (if it's true) that the arrangement is no less favorable to the HOA than an arm's-length deal would be. Then it's fine.
MartyS5 (Georgia)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Note that if you have volunteers, you must have workman's compensation insurance. Best to hire a contractor who is insured.

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