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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Well the title says it all. What is your association doing about it or thinking about it?
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
We’re about three months past due at this point.

We accept any amount, interest is applied on any amount, we turn the account over to our attorney for collection in August 1.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
We have not really discussed it in detail except to wave any late fees. Pay what you can if you're able.
LanceG1 (Georgia)
Posts: 97
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Posted By LetA on 04/05/2020 10:58 PM
We have not really discussed it in detail except to wave any late fees. Pay what you can if you're able.

We have a once a year payment. I've already set the expectation that we will have a much higher delinquency rate this year. My recommendation is going to be that we try to establish a payment plan that is consistent for all of these people outside of an attorney first since attorneys cost money.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Condo communities have less wiggle room since assessments often cover things like water, trash collection, grass cutting, snow removal, and the like. We can't just close the clubhouse and call it done until people start paying again. About the only thing my community could do is to defer exterior maintenance.

Because so few of our expenses are discretionary, I expect we'd be filing liens against non-payers a little more quickly.

LanceG1 (Georgia)
Posts: 97
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Posted By CathyA3 on 04/06/2020 9:05 AM
Condo communities have less wiggle room since assessments often cover things like water, trash collection, grass cutting, snow removal, and the like. We can't just close the clubhouse and call it done until people start paying again. About the only thing my community could do is to defer exterior maintenance.

Because so few of our expenses are discretionary, I expect we'd be filing liens against non-payers a little more quickly.


Right now you have more options than during normal times. Most financial institutions are more willing to work with you to defer payments (if your association has taken out any loans), utilities can be deferred, the PPP can cover up to 8 weeks of salaries, health insurance etc.., if you have employees you can qualify for EIDL grants and should be able to qualify for EIDL loans and you might even be able to work out some short term insurance deferrals if you're really in a bind.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Not being on the board, I don't know if this is even an issue in my Association.

I would propose waiving of late charges provided all funds due for the year are paid by 12/31.
This would be done if someone asked. It would not be advertised, simply an unpublished policy to address the current, temporary, situation.

I would not recommend this for chronic late payers.

This of course would depend on how solvent your Association is, how willing the Board may be to borrow from the reserves (which may postpone scheduled maintenance and repairs). etc.

GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

There's some question on the PPP forgiveable "loans" and whether or not "payroll" includes money paid to contractors on a 1099. It is said that in order to qualify for a PPP loan you must have a pre-existing relationship with a lender who has lent you SBA money in the past. That would leave us out. It would be nice if a loophole opened up but we're not counting on it. Hey, if casinos are getting bailout money then why not residential communities?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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I've been away from my board for some time, but served with our current board, so I suspect we're doing the same as Tim's community. Generally we don't waive late fees because there are so many ways people can pay and be on time, but they can ask and the Board usually reviewed those on a case by case basis.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
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If possible, work with your homeowners on a case-by-case basis. Create a plan that works for all parties involved, but make sure the agreement is documented in writing.
CD6 (Texas)
Posts: 34
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Posted By MarshallT on 04/07/2020 6:01 AM
If possible, work with your homeowners on a case-by-case basis. Create a plan that works for all parties involved, but make sure the agreement is documented in writing.

That would be under your Payment Plan Policy. If you don't have one, you should.
We are required to offer a payment plan per state law.
Agreement must be signed and the first installment is due at the same time the agreement is brought to the office.
MitchellD3 (Florida)
Posts: 20
Posted:
For most people, a price is paid every month to maintain shelter whether for a house or an apartment. Some people pay rent for a residence and some people live in community associations (condos or HOAs). You either pay a landlord rent, or you pay the costs for owning your property (mortgage, maintenance fees, taxes, and insurance).

The question today is how this money is applied and how important it is to pay for your housing.

Should You Pay Your Rent?
Not paying rent is hurtful to landlords who have invested in the purchase of a property and maintain it so that they can rent out units. Included in the rent that you pay is a return on investment which the landlord investor most certainly deserves. The landlord takes a risk, works hard, and in most cases is willing to gain a small percentage every month for this investment.

Rent SHOULD be paid.

Should You Pay Condo/HOA Fees?
Community associations are a different story. Condos and HOAs did not sell you this property but rather the home was purchased from a developer or a previous owner. Now these previous owners are gone and it’s your responsibility to pay your share to keep the community in good shape.

The association itself is a not-for-profit entity that has no cushion for delinquencies. HOA delinquencies and Condo Delinquencies put the entire property at risk. Unless a community association collects every dollar that it has budgeted there will be a shortfall and somebody will not get paid.

That somebody could be the janitorial staff, security, landscape, water, electricity or any expense that is due as a result of maintaining the community. Depending on who is in charge of facility maintenance it could even be a life safety issue that is being postponed and that is a dangerous situation.

Maintenance fees MUST be paid.

Every Homeowner Is A Shareholder in the Community
Not paying your maintenance fees is putting your community and yourself in harm’s way. It will decrease the value of your property and may cause small problems to evolve into bigger ones. In a rental, a landlord will do what is necessary to protect their investment, in a condo or HOA every owner needs to do the same.

These are hard times and they may even get harder, so we all need to tighten our belts, hunker down, and pay our community association maintenance fees.

You now need to prioritize your personal accounts payable and your association dues should be on top of that pile.

What Happens If You Don’t Pay Your Assessments?
If you do not pay your association fees and become a delinquent member of your association, the community needs to act. If you do not act to address HOA delinquencies and condo delinquencies, services will be reduced, fees may go up for the good-paying owners, and of course, you may get hit with a special assessment.

It’s no secret that these are hard times but your board of directors has a fiduciary duty to the association and cannot afford to make allowances that they cannot pay for. Principal collected by way of assessments cannot be waived by the board of directors unless they convene a new budget meeting and formulate a budget that contemplates the percentage of delinquencies that are anticipated to appear. Only then is it reasonable to reduce maintenance fees.

The problem is that most community associations already run on very lean budgets and there isn’t much that can be cut.

What Recourse Do Board and Managers Have if Assessments Aren’t Paid?
What can be done is to collect from delinquent owners what is owed. The object of community association collections should NOT be the abuse of foreclosure powers but a way to gently and respectfully engage owners to explain to them the significance of what their fees pay for.

If your management company cannot convey the concept to the owners perhaps a specialized collections firm can. Sending your neighbors directly to an attorney to foreclose on their unit is a very harsh and drastic course of action. Working with them to understand the nature of their obligation and how fees paid benefit themselves and their neighbors is the way to go.

Find a merit-based collection solution that specializes in community association collections and let them work out your cash-flow problems. Time is of the essence and your community cannot afford to be neglected.
MarkW18
Posts: 1,290
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I received an email just a few minutes from CAI. It reads:

We need you to ask Congress to include community associations in the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP). The House and Senate are currently negotiating additional funding in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. While community associations are included in the Small Business Administration Economic Injury Disaster Loans, they are not included in the PPP, which potentially offers greater access to financial support than other loan programs.

CAI is concerned that community association defaults may rise concurrent with mortgage default payments, imposing unsustainable cashflow constraints on associations that will limit retention of employees and contractors and substantially impair delivery of essential services to owners. Funding from the PPP could help community associations facing cashflow constraints.

Unless the HOA has employees, I am totally against this.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Well, of course you are.

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