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TinaC3 (South Carolina)
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Our Board is going to embrace revising our 40 year old Declaration created by the builder in SC. When the condo development was new, nobody cared about what would need to be done as common and limited elements aged. Our Declaration states the HOA is responsible for almost everything except the inside of the condo and garage. I'm seeking input for 2020 guidelines as to what other condo HOAs are obligated to fund. We currently are financially responsible for limited common elements like slabs, crawlspaces, driveways, walkways, roofs, attic areas, patios, decks, screened porches and sun rooms. We are considering our revised Declaration reassign these items to the owners. We have 144 condos and repairs/replacements of these are unfeasible. The Common Area elements alone can barely be managed as we have private streets and over 30 acres of landscaping, along with a pool, tennis courts and a clubhouse to maintain. Please share what your HOA must fund or any other creative solutions. Thanks!
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Tina

You just do not "reassign" responsibilities. If you do, standby for some legal repercussion.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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You may need to look at more than the Declaration, which is why you need to review ALL OF YOUR DOCUMENTS with the association attorney for more information on what to do and how to do it. When board members try to amend the documents themselves, they often get in trouble because (1) they don’t have the expertise and (2) they don’t review what’s already there to see how the language needs to be changed and (3) they try to do it without homeowner approval. Even if they get homeowner approval, mistakes in drafting the amendments to the documents may render them unenforceable and ultimately cost the Association thousands of dollars.
Generally, the Declaration establishes the Association (along with articles of incorporations that establish it as a non-profit corporation), the Bylaws dictate how the association is to be run (number of board members, length of terms, etc.) and the CCRs dictate how the common areas are to be used. Although it’s in your declaration, the CCRs may also address what’s homeowner responsibility vs. Association responsibility vs. areas both are responsible for (the limited common areas).
You also say your community is having trouble paying for upkeep and repairs to the streets, landscaping, clubhouse, pool, and tennis courts, which tells me you likely have a huge problem with your budget, starting with assessments not keeping up with inflation. I also wonder about reserves – do you have a reserve fund?. If so when was the last time you had a reserve study (usually, these should be done every 5 years) and have you been preparing your budgets according to its recommendations?
(Why do I get the feeling the answers range from “no” to “I don’t know” and “what’s that?”)
In terms of creative ways of doing this, let’s begin by calling a special meeting of the homeowners to discuss this. Actually, you’ll likely need several. You need to be straightforward with the budget constraints and that everyone will have to be prepared for making some tough decisions, starting with determining exactly what the Association is able to pay for. These special meetings can be used to help get a sense of what the homeowners are willing to take on.
If they don’t want anything changed, they must accept that assessments must and will increase A LOT in order to pay for everything. Show them the numbers - the last five years or so of year-end budgets would be a start, because homeowners can look at the line items to see what’s gone up faster than others.

After the meeting(s), do a poll to see where the homeowners are at – you’ll need to get buy-in from a considerable majority if you’re to succeed in getting the documents changed (because they have to approve them).
Your community sounds like it’s a townhouse community (I live in one) and homeowners are responsible for patios – we don’t have screened porches or sunrooms. I would suggest turning those responsibilities, along with the crawlspaces and attic areas to the homeowners. Driveways, walkways, and sidewalks could remain association responsibility, but you can also establish rules concerning things like no changing the oil on the driveway (oil eats concrete) or using concrete safe ice melt which can help reduce repair costs.

From there, you could establish a special committee that could review the documents and make recommendations on what could be changed. The board should talk with the attorney first to make sure they understand if this can be done and how, so the committee will have a better understanding on what their job will be. Another committee could take a look at the last five years of budgets to see what’s increased faster and make recommendations on policies and procedures to get them under control.

One more thing – this probably won’t happen overnight and it shouldn’t because people need to make informed decisions and there’s more at stake than changing the documents. So take your time – better to do that and end up with changes that will stick. Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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I strongly recommend getting the association's attorney involved from the beginning. Re-writing a Declaration is beyond the abilities of anyone who is not well-versed in condo law in your state and any federal laws that supersede association law (for example, Fair Housing and ADA laws).

One obvious question is whether state law allows you to offload maintenance responsibilities onto the homeowners. Another thing you need to consider is the likelihood of getting enough votes to approve the new Declaration. The legal work is expen$ive (a few years ago we paid over $1000 to draft and approve 3 amendments to our Declaration). You don't want to spend all that money unless you're reasonably certain that the new Declaration will be approved (and it takes a super majority to approve something like this - 67% or 75% is typical).

A little dose of reality: this is when you discover how little people understand about condo finances. They hear "the association pays" and they think they're getting something for free. They're not. Maintenance has to happen, and it doesn't matter much whether homeowners pay directly themselves or they pay the money to the association in assessments and the association pays for the maintenance. But I guarantee you that the majority of your owners do not understand this, so offloading maintenance to them will be a tough slog.

Having said that, in my condo community:

* The association owns foundations, firewalls, framing and other structural components, roofs, utility lines and duct work serving more than one unit, patios and decks, driveways, streets and green space.

* Patios and decks are limited (exclusive use) common elements. Driveways are not but other restrictions make the driveways function as limited common elements.

* Owners are responsible for the interior of the home, attics, and any duct work or utility lines within the walls that serve only their units.

* Owners are also responsible for maintaining their limited common elements.

* Your insurance requirements will need to change if you change maintenance responsibilities. Our Declaration requires us to carry "all included" insurance. This can be a source of confusion since "all in" insurance covers parts of the interiors of units *if there is an insurable event*. Storm tears the roof off and rain damages parts of the interior? Insurable event, and the master policy will cover it. Roof has a slow leak, resulting in water-stained ceilings and mold? Not an insurable event as far as the master policy is concerned (although the unit owner's HO6 policy may cover the damage).

* You didn't ask about this, but Ohio condo law requires us to fund our reserves in accordance with our most recent reserve study. The only exception to this requires 100% of the membership to approve reduced funding, and they must vote on this every year. (In other words, Ohio law makers require condo owners to acknowledge that they are being irresponsible and that this will bite them in the hinder eventually.)

It sounds to me like your association does not have adequate reserves, for whatever reason, and the piper will need to be paid. Changing your Declaration will not stop irresponsible management. Since I'm skeptical about the chances of your membership approving a change in your Declaration that would offload maintenance responsibilities to them - and it would cost you a significant chunk of change that you probably can ill afford to spend - I strongly recommend that your board have a "come to Jesus" meeting about the state of your finances and get ready to make some hard decisions about what you can and cannot afford.
AugustinD
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Posted By TinaC3 on 03/09/2020 7:16 AM
We currently are financially responsible for limited common elements like slabs, crawlspaces, driveways, walkways, roofs, attic areas, patios, decks, screened porches and sun rooms. We are considering our revised Declaration reassign these items to the owners. We have 144 condos and repairs/replacements of these are unfeasible.
Have you had a Reserve Study in the last two years or so indicating how much a Special Assessment would have to be to make the repairs? Do your governing documents allow a Special Assessment? Also is there a limit on how much the board may increase the regular assessment each year? I believe best practices dictates having several meetings with members to discuss the amendments to the Declaration that you propose. I think the Board would want to speak to how much a Special Assessment would have to be for the HOA to fulfill its duty to maintain. This might sell people on the amendment. On the other hand, if I were a member of your Condo, I do not think I would vote for this amendment. Because the HOA would still have an obligation to enforce the covenants. This means the HOA would now be in the un-enviable position of requiring members maintain all the items you listed. Also one of the benefits of condos is that payments for major maintenance, on a per unit basis, are typically lower than if each member paid on her or his own. This is due to 'economy of scale.'
AugustinD
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Posted By CathyA3 on 03/09/2020 8:40 AM
Ohio condo law requires us to fund our reserves in accordance with our most recent reserve study.
I wish this were state law everywhere. Reserve Studies can be way off, but associations can reduce the assessment if the reserve account gets unreasonably large (per the most recent reserve study).
SheliaH (Indiana)
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A reserve funding requirement would be a good idea, but reducing assessments is usually a bad idea. There’s more to HOA budgeting than reserves – for one, people often forget about inflation. 2020 dollars probably won’t buy the same amount in 2030 or even 2025. “Unreasonable” is also subjective – what’s unreasonable to you may be ok to someone else. If you have a healthy fund, you can always hold funding to the current amount for a year or two. As for the assessment, you can also reduce the percentage of the assessment increase (e.g. 1% vs. 3%) or hold the current amount for next year – we’ve done both in my community

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
AugustinD
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Posted By SheliaH on 03/09/2020 9:30 AM
A reserve funding requirement would be a good idea, but reducing assessments is usually a bad idea. There’s more to HOA budgeting than reserves – for one, people often forget about inflation.
-- I hope you are aware that Reserve Studies assume a certain number for inflation. If a study is done once every five years, and given how inflation can vary, the numbers may be wildly off in one direction or another. A relatively sophisticated manager and treasurer will be key to assessing the situation until the next reserve study is required.

-- From reading here and elsewhere, nationwide it is usual for the "percent funded" figure for a HOA to be well south of 100%.

-- CathyA3 says Ohio statutes require funding in accordance with the latest reserve study. Given that reserve studies are far from exact science, I can see the Reserve Fund building to an unrealistic amount and members being rightly annoyed when it is 2023 and the Reserve Study done in 2023 says the Reserve Fund is at, say, 170% of where it needs to be.

-- The whole purpose of funding per reserve studies is to even out expenses across different owners of any particular home or unit. Letting a reserve fund reach 170% is not fair to prior owners.

-- I believe less than 1% of HOA members and directors understand reserve studies.
TinaC3 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
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We have engaged an attorney and realize that an Association vote is required. Unfortunately, this should have been addressed years ago as now the finances are in dire straits.
TinaC3 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
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We have engaged an attorney and agree that Association input is key since we are all in the same boat. We do plan to do surveys and have Town Halls along the way. Thanks so much for your thoughts!
TinaC3 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
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Thanks so much for your detailed response. You are absolutely correct about our financial state of affairs. We did a reserve study in the spring and the results are scary. In addition, many things were excluded which only makes it worse.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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I wasn’t just speaking of the reserves –I was thinking of the OPERATING budget (the one used for monthly expenses). As you know, those line items can and do go up, some more than others, and sometimes every year (like insurance). If you held reserve deposits at current funding for a year or two, the money you may have designated to an increase could be applied to a line item in the operating budget. Or you can leave everything as is and not increase the annual budget at all.

You’re correct that most reserves aren’t funded at 100% anyway, so you’re not going to get too many instances where a HOA is 170% funded. You’re also correct that most people don’t understand reserve studies, which is why I often suggest a special homeowner’s meeting or something where people can hear from the reserve study specialist on how they’re put together, what the results mean for their community – and why they should care.

Ignorance isn’t bliss in any HOA, so before anyone talks about reducing assessments, they’d better run through the numbers and understand the pros and cons of it – whether they’re first-time homeowners or have been there for 20 years.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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