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ReneC1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
F.S. 723.078
members of the Board of Directors who do not respect their signature on the affidavit.

After his or her election or appointment, a new board member has 90 days to read all documents related to the operation of the association and promises to abide by them by signing the affidavit in question.

In this case, the majority of the board members are French-speaking and do not read the English language, so they are unable to read and fully understand F.S. 723, F.S. 715, Robert's Rules of Order, which is the basis for the operation of the meetings. In addition, the new president refuses to apply some of the directives put in place by the previous boards.

I know that not respecting an oath becomes perjury under section 1746 of title 28 of the United States. Aside from a lawsuit, can a complaint be made to any agency.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Please confirm: Is your organization a condominium, trailer park, or non-condominium HOA?

I see that FS 723.0781 is the statute section to which you are referring. See http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0723/Sections/0723.0781.html

I think that federal statute 28 USC 1746 pertains only to federal laws that require swearing an oath.

I think your best chances to remedy this are via FS 723.005 and FS 723.038. In short, filing complaint with the Division of Florida Condominiums, Timeshares, and Mobile Homes of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation. See
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0723/Sections/0723.005.html

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0723/Sections/0723.038.html

Here are some clues on filing a complaint with the Division:
http://myfloridalicense.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2038/~/where-do-i-file-a-complaint-against-my-condominium-or-cooperative-association%2C

Before complaining to the Division, I do advise writing your board first and politely asking them to comply with FS 723.0781. If this does not get the response you want, write a second time asking them to do so but now stating that, if the board does not, you will have no choice but to file a complaint with the Division.
PaulJ6
Posts: 990
Posted:
Why not just use Google Translate and ask them to review those documents in a semi-translated version? Doesn't that accomplish what you need?

Usually I side with anyone against a HOA board, but in this case, using words such as "perjury" and "complaint" are way too much. Give them a helping hand, not a knife in the back.

ReneC1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I'm confirming it's a mobile home park under 723.

Last year, I translated into French the Articles of Incorporation, the By-laws, the most important articles of 723, as well as the Prospectus, the Rules and Regulations and the Lease Agreement for the park. I had even started translating Robert's Rules of Order, which is not very easy to understand.

Despite this, the Board believes that the signed affidavit is meaningless and continues not to apply these documents.

I believe that a meeting of the members is necessary in order to remove certain members of the board.

Thank you for your response.
PaulJ6
Posts: 990
Posted:
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Posted By ReneC1 on 02/26/2020 12:46 PM
I'm confirming it's a mobile home park under 723.

Last year, I translated into French the Articles of Incorporation, the By-laws, the most important articles of 723, as well as the Prospectus, the Rules and Regulations and the Lease Agreement for the park. I had even started translating Robert's Rules of Order, which is not very easy to understand.

Despite this, the Board believes that the signed affidavit is meaningless and continues not to apply these documents.

I believe that a meeting of the members is necessary in order to remove certain members of the board.

Thank you for your response.

I retract what I said. The situation that you describe is certainly more than just reading a document. I'm supportive of you.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Posted By ReneC1 on 02/26/2020 12:46 PM
I'm confirming it's a mobile home park under 723.

Last year, I translated into French the Articles of Incorporation, the By-laws, the most important articles of 723, as well as the Prospectus, the Rules and Regulations and the Lease Agreement for the park. I had even started translating Robert's Rules of Order, which is not very easy to understand.

Despite this, the Board believes that the signed affidavit is meaningless and continues not to apply these documents.

I believe that a meeting of the members is necessary in order to remove certain members of the board.

Thank you for your response.

If your documents specifically state they're supposed to sign this affidavit, they refuse to and won't follow the bylaws either, it would appear YOU will have to go to the homeowners and persuade them to attend a special meeting to discuss this and possibly recall them. Of course, if that happens, you'd better find someone (or several) willing to step up and replace them.

You might also try talking to the association attorney and have him/her explain the statute and how it relates to your documents (even if you and other others know it, a refresher is always nice.) Sometimes hearing it from an attorney will convince others it's a good idea to know what one's documents say and apply them.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ReneC1 on 02/26/2020 12:46 PM
I'm confirming it's a mobile home park under 723.

Last year, I translated into French the Articles of Incorporation, the By-laws, the most important articles of 723, as well as the Prospectus, the Rules and Regulations and the Lease Agreement for the park. I had even started translating Robert's Rules of Order, which is not very easy to understand.

Despite this, the Board believes that the signed affidavit is meaningless and continues not to apply these documents.

I believe that a meeting of the members is necessary in order to remove certain members of the board.

Thank you for your response.

Are there places that provide the curriculum specified in FS 723.0781(2) in French? A certifiicate that you've "satisfactorily completed the educational curriculum approved by the division" is an acceptable alternative vs a signed statement. Many (if not most) attorneys will recommend that a director attend a course (curriculum) rather than sign any statement. Many governing documents (not sure about "mobile home" parks) for condos and HOAs contain provisions that are not in conformance with the laws. Signing a statement that you agree to uphold those documents, including the ones that violate the law, isn't something anyone should do, according to many attorneys, even if it's inadvertant.
BenA2 (Texas)
Posts: 1,273
Posted:
Perjury is lying under oath so it is not perjury unless they signed an affidavit under oath knowing at the time they were being untruthful, which would be impossible to prove their intent in this case. The United States Code only applies to oaths under federal jurisdiction so that is not applicable.

The fact that they don't speak or read English does not necessarily mean they don't understand documents in English. They could easily have them translated.

I would concentrate on failures to abide by your governing documents and state law. Usually the best way to deal with those is at election time. If they are bad enough, you may be able to remove them if your governing documents and/or state law allow it.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
What happens when you commit perjury and lie to a judge or jury in court? Up to 5 years prison.
What happens when you commit perjury and lie to Rene, an owner in an HOA? Ummm.... nothing.
ReneC1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
For the sake of clarity, the affidavit is not a document provided by the Division or by a lawyer. It is simply a text that repeats what is written in Florida Statute 723 and requires an elected official to take the oath. I have translated it into French so that people understand the commitment they are making by signing this document.

Here is the text found on the internet that led me to believe that the conduct of these people could be a perjury.

ยง1746. Unsworn declarations under penalty of perjury

Wherever, under any law of the United States or under any rule, regulation, order, or requirement made pursuant to law, any matter is required or permitted to be supported, evidenced, established, or proved by the sworn declaration, verification, certificate, statement, oath, or affidavit, in writing of the person making the same (other than a deposition, or an oath of office, or an oath required to be taken before a specified official other than a notary public), such matter may, with like force and effect, be supported, evidenced, established, or proved by the unsworn declaration, certificate, verification, or statement, in writing of such person which is subscribed by him, as true under penalty of perjury, and dated, in substantially the following form:

Your answers are enlightened. Anyway, before we bring out the heavy artillery, there are steps to take.

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