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DianeP3 (South Carolina)
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Our HOA is self managed. We would like to offer customer service training/how to deal with difficult people education for our staff. Does anyone have experience with this or recommend a facilitator? Thanks
ND (PA)
Posts: 792
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Interesting concept. Perhaps consider purchasing one or more books on the topic that would be a more inexpensive and lasting resource. One book could be read and passed between multiple Board Members and then retained by the HOA/Board for reading by future Board Members.
Problem I see with training are as follows:
- Trained Board Members will eventually leave, taking that training with them. New Board Members will require training (a continual expense).
- Once training ends, if questions or circumstances arise where you need advice, there are no resources (for free).
- Potentially expensive (in comparison to books).
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Take a part time job at Walmart... I worked customer service for years. It's not all about customer service as much as knowing the rules. Like I suggested on another post. Bring the HOA's rules to each and every meeting. Refer to them when giving answers. It doesn't have to be right away. Just say "let us refer to the rules and we will get back to you". You then reference the rule in the CC&R's or By-laws that gives you the answer. Stand behind that.

Former HOA President
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By ND on 02/19/2020 5:05 AM
Interesting concept. Perhaps consider purchasing one or more books on the topic that would be a more inexpensive and lasting resource. One book could be read and passed between multiple Board Members and then retained by the HOA/Board for reading by future Board Members.
Problem I see with training are as follows:
- Trained Board Members will eventually leave, taking that training with them. New Board Members will require training (a continual expense).
- Once training ends, if questions or circumstances arise where you need advice, there are no resources (for free).
- Potentially expensive (in comparison to books).

Adding to what ND said, board members come and go frequently, so the cost would be greater than for a group of professionals who may stay many years in their positions.

We found it useful to develop a standard approach to dealing with the "vocational dissidents" whose only goal is to stir up trouble: for example, a basic scripted response *in writing*, stay on message, no back-and-forth that gives the person something to argue over.

The most important part of dealing with difficult people is to remove the emotional reward of a confrontation - that's it in a nutshell. A thick skin and a basic, scripted, professional response will see you through.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Great idea! Not only would I offer this to the staff, but you should also include the board members - and mandate refresher training every year.

As others have said there are dozens of books and articles on dealing with difficult people, excellent customer service and the like, so Google the subject and check out a few. If you have a LinkedIn account, you will see information from various bloggers on the subject - consider subscribing to a few so you can pass on interesting articles as needed.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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What kind of staff do have at your HOA, Diane? It sounds like they're your HOA's direct employees v employees of a vendor?

What size is your HOA?
MarkW18
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/19/2020 5:38 AM
Take a part time job at Walmart... I worked customer service for years. It's not all about customer service as much as knowing the rules. Like I suggested on another post. Bring the HOA's rules to each and every meeting. Refer to them when giving answers. It doesn't have to be right away. Just say "let us refer to the rules and we will get back to you". You then reference the rule in the CC&R's or By-laws that gives you the answer. Stand behind that.

I am sure that works each and every time!
DianeP3 (South Carolina)
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These are direct employees. We are working on a policy book for them to follow. However, we have received reports they are sometimes rude which is totally unacceptable.
So my thought is to get everyone trained on the rules with a resource manual to rely on.
Next teach them how to interact with the public.
Next an HR process would kick in.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By DianeP3 on 02/19/2020 9:25 AM
These are direct employees. We are working on a policy book for them to follow. However, we have received reports they are sometimes rude which is totally unacceptable.
So my thought is to get everyone trained on the rules with a resource manual to rely on.
Next teach them how to interact with the public.
Next an HR process would kick in.

Ah. That's a bit different. I'm sure you know this already, but take the reports of "rude behavior" with a grain of salt unless you receive multiple reports about a single person. HOA board members, property managers and employees often come in for a ridiculous amount of cr@p from homeowners, and some homeowners feel it's their right to sling it without any repercussions. It can be a real trick to deal with that nonsense without resorting to the same bad behavior.

("No cr@p given, no cr@p taken." Cathy's Rules for Life #13)
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Yup – that’s why I would extend the training to the board members as well. These days, it seems everyone has a hair trigger temper and some are less interested in resolving the problem or getting a question answered, as opposed to getting their pound of flesh by cussing someone out, calling them out of their name, issuing threats, getting physical– or just blasting them to smithereens with a shotgun or AR-15 with bump stocks.

I think the essentials of excellent customer service include:

1 – Making sure everyone’s educated on policies and procedures

2- Having a clear process for addressing questions or problems

3- Managing expectations. In some cases, the employee may have to consult the manager or the board itself – not because they’re blowing you off, but because he or she wants to ensure that you get the appropriate response. In other words, slow your roll and wait a moment (at least give your blood pressure time to come down)

4- Not being afraid to admit you’re wrong and learning from your mistakes.

5 – Being polite and professional, but not allowing yourself to become a punching bag. If a person can’t express him/herself without cussing, threatening, using the N-word, etc., you DO NOT have to sit there and be disrespected. Simply end the conversation, saying you’ll be happy to discuss it further once the person had calmed down, and then leave. Tell your supervisor immediately and document everything you said and did. By the way, supervisors need to learn to have their employees' back and reiterate the same thing.

In addition, I don’t always subscribe to “the customer is always right.” I understand why it’s said, but sometimes, the customer IS wrong and will not accept that, so you have to document and stand your ground.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MarkW18
Posts: 1,290
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Hey, I like my AR-15 with the bump stock.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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What are the staffers' positions? Security officers? Custodians? Landscapers? Building engineers? Each has a different relationship with residents. So "rudeness" needs to be defined. Examples please.

Also, can you tell us what size your HOA is? You say you'r self-managed, but sometimes that means the boars has some sort of manager as a direct employee. Do you? How many staffers do you have?
DianeP3 (South Carolina)
Posts: 10
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Our community has about 300 units. We have both owner occupied and renters. Our employes in the office are the commu ity manager and an assistant. We have two ft employes for maintenance/landscaping. We add staff in summer to maintence as needed.

The rudeness reports are for the office staff in particular the assistant. We have asked for complaints in writing. I think we received one. However, one of our residents created a fb page and there was a firestorm of posts about being rude.

She did tell someone she "wasnt trained" which totally isn't true.

So we need to start at the bottom again and work up.

First a policy and procedure manual supporting our covenant and bylaws. While recognizing rules/process maybe slightly different based on wether an owner/renter.

Then the training on the content for staff anf Board.

The assistant is the first person a person meets when comi g to the office. The manager is great but needs to model expectations.

Thats wht I was actually looking for a trainer to teach customer communications. Seems kind of nuts we need to do this. I liked the comment on deescalating situations etc. We need to teach those skills.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Diane,

See the following from the foundation for community association research:

Best Practices Reports

Additionally, here is one from the Navy:

Navy Customer Service Manual

However, I think the issue is common courtesy.
The Board might be better in drafting a resolution in how to handle complaints.

Here is a link to help: How to Write a Customer Service Training Manual

Everyone can have a bad day. However, if it's an on going problem, you might need to consider personnel changes.
DianeP3 (South Carolina)
Posts: 10
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Thank you all so much for your thoughts, suggestions and references!!!

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