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MaryannC2 (Florida)
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I am newly elected Treasurer of a 104 unit condo HOA. I am not a Certified Public Account; however I do have a working knowledge of Financial Statements. Our state requires us to submit availability of an Income Statement and a Balance Sheet annually to our members. This has never been done - and I want to comply.

I have no problem compiling an Income Statement.

I am at a loss regarding the Balance Sheet. I know that a Balance Sheet shows Assets = Liabilities + Member Equity on a given date. I have in possession another HOA's Balance Sheet. It shows Assets comprised of cash in a Checking A/C and cash in a CD minus A/Cs Receivable. OK so far. It shows Liabilities of A/Cs payable + Equity. The Equity consists of Retained Earnings plus the Net Income from the prior year's Income Statement for Total Equity. With regard to our HOA, we do not show Retained Earnings. Previous years' Income Statements have never shown much of a surplus and often have shown a deficit. Dues have not been raised sufficiently.

First Question: As a non-profit entity, are we allowed to have Retained Earnings?
Second Question: Is is common and allowed by GAAP standards to retain earnings of a non-profit entity?
Third Question: Knowing the above, how am I to calculate Equity for our HOA?

For all you CPAs and Accounting Experts - can you help me or does our HOA need to hire someone? I welcome and appreciate any and all input.

SheliaH (Indiana)
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You really REALLY need to talk to an accountant. Who put together the information you already have? You may want to start there and he or she can help you put something together with current data.

From there, you may want to suggest the board consider hiring an accountant to help prepare your documents and set up a bookkeeping system. Once that's done, start preparing these documents every month as it will help you keep better track of where the money's coming from and going.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
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104 units sounds large enough to consider professional property management - with the management you should get accounting services.
BenA2 (Texas)
Posts: 1,273
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You seem to have a good working knowledge so I don't see a problem with you doing it yourself, but you may want to hire a CPA one time just to make sure the books are straight and that you understand the basics for your HOA.

A non-profit HOA can have retained earnings but you may have to pay taxes on it, depending on where the money comes from. This is also something a CPA can look at and advise you to limit your tax liability.
CarolF (Florida)
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It isn't likely that you are a non-profit. Florida HOA's are "for profit corporations".
A non-profit is something like a charitable organization and that designation is given by the IRS.
CarolF (Florida)
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Sorry - a typo. I mean "not for profit" corporation.
MarkW18
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Posted By BenA2 on 02/01/2020 1:07 PM
You seem to have a good working knowledge so I don't see a problem with you doing it yourself, but you may want to hire a CPA one time just to make sure the books are straight and that you understand the basics for your HOA.

A non-profit HOA can have retained earnings but you may have to pay taxes on it, depending on where the money comes from. This is also something a CPA can look at and advise you to limit your tax liability.

Do you actually know what retained earning are? You might want to Google that.
BobB31 (Florida)
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Posted By CarolF on 02/01/2020 1:55 PM
It isn't likely that you are a non-profit. Florida HOA's are "for profit corporations".
A non-profit is something like a charitable organization and that designation is given by the IRS.

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FS720:
(1) The purposes of this chapter are to give statutory recognition to corporations not for profit that operate residential communities in this state, to provide procedures for operating homeowners’ associations, and to protect the rights of association members without unduly impairing the ability of such associations to perform their functions.
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
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Also, check this - 1120 H is the form most HOA's file.

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1120-h
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
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You can go to this FL state corporation website
https://dos.myflorida.com/sunbiz/
Search by name - put in your associations name, and it will most
likely say "not for profit" corporation. This is different from
a non-profit corporation.
BobB31 (Florida)
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Posted By CarolF on 02/01/2020 2:30 PM
You can go to this FL state corporation website
https://dos.myflorida.com/sunbiz/
Search by name - put in your associations name, and it will most
likely say "not for profit" corporation. This is different from
a non-profit corporation.

Just to be clear, I was refuting this statement "Florida HOA's are 'for profit corporations'."
CarolF (Florida)
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Bob - please see that it was a typo...........
GenoS (Florida)
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Posted By MaryannC2 on 02/01/2020 8:24 AM
I am newly elected Treasurer of a 104 unit condo HOA. I am not a Certified Public Account; however I do have a working knowledge of Financial Statements. Our state requires us to submit availability of an Income Statement and a Balance Sheet annually to our members. This has never been done - and I want to comply.

What the state requires is based on your total annual revenues as per FS 720.303(7). You'll have to produce a report of all cash receipts and expenditures OR compiled financial statements OR reviewed financial statements OR audited financial statements, depending on your total annual revenue and, perhaps, on what the homeowners have voted for.

There's nothing in the statutes per se about providing an Income Statement and Balance Sheet. To the extent that the required level of financial reporting does include those things, then yes, you'd have to come up with those and provide them to the homeowners. Alternatively, you can provide notice to the homeowners that copies of the financial statements are available on request and at no charge to the homeowner. Notice that this is separate and apart from the homeowners' right to access the official records of the association. Copies must be provided, if requested, at no charge.

I agree with the suggestions to hire an outside independent CPA. We've had CPAs on our Board in the past and still hired an independent outside accountant to prepare our yearly financial reports. One year we had 2 CPAs on the Board and a third not on the Board but chairing the Financial Committee. The association STILL went to an outside accountant for the yearly financial report.
BobB31 (Florida)
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Posted By CarolF on 02/01/2020 4:05 PM
Bob - please see that it was a typo...........

Got it, now. Sorry
JoeB23 (Florida)
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MaryannC2,

A Balance Sheet is not that complicated to complete. I have prepared hundreds of financial statements including Income Statements, Balance Sheets and Statements of Cash Flows.

The three parts of a Balance Sheet are the Assets, Liabilities and Equity. For Not for Profit HOAs, equity is considered a Reserve Account and a Reserve Account is permitted by FS Chapters 617 and 720. Chapter 617 applies to Not for Profit Corporations and Chapter 720 was adopted in 2000 and applies to Homeowners Associations.

Assets would include any item of value your HOA owns such as Cash, Investments, Accounts Receivables, and Property Plant and Equipment. Assets also include what's called Contra-assets such as Accumulated Depreciation on your Property, Plant and Equipment as well as Allowance for Bad Debts which is used for uncollectable Accounts Receivables. There may also be Prepaid Expenses includes in Assets such as Insurance.

Liabilities include Accounts Payables, Loans, and Unearned Revenue.

Reserves = Assets -Liabilities and is also increased or decreased by any surplus or deficit from your Income Statement.

So,your Balance Sheet would look like this:

ASSETS

Cash
Investments
Accounts Receivables
Allowance for Bad Debts
Property, Plant and Equipment
Accumulated Depreciation

TOTAL ASSETS

LIABILITIES
Accounts Payables
Loans Payable
Unearned or Deferred Income (such as Prepaid Assessments)

TOTAL LIABILITIES

Reserves (Assets - Liabilities)

TOTAL LIABILITIES AND RESERVE ACCOUNTS

Again, your Total Assets must equal your Total Liabilities and Reserve Accounts

Hope this helps.

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