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MarecaJ (Ohio)
Posts: 8
Posted:
We are a small community of 75 homes in Ohio. Phase one of the build 2006, Phase two 2015-17. Until January 1 this year the developer as a single person LLC maintained sole control over the HOA. He would not provide the home owners any documentation or budgeting, would not answer letters or phone calls. When he needed money, he would start sending letters and threatening liens. Some homeowners paid during the 2016-2018 years, most homeowners did not pay any dues. Now with the owners gaining control over the HOA, some board members state they should collect dues from all owners that didn't pay 2016-2018 because they need a reserve. The only expenses are water, lighting at the entry, mowing of the entry and a small grassy common area, insurance. There are no amenities, parks, etc. My question is, can the newly homeowner acquired HOA, collect dues for a period where we did not have control, a voice or when the money went to a sole entity?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
First off, are you condos or single family homes or both?

Second, you should familiarize yourself with your governing documents, often referred to as "covenants and restrictions" or CC&Rs. This spells out in detail owners rights and responsibilities in your HOA.

In answer to your question, homeowners owners have owed assessments from the time they closed on their homes, so yes, those who didn't pay do indeed owe the association. In fact they may (and very likely are) subject to late fees. There should be a section in your CC&Rs that talks about assessments. You may also have owed a capital contribution at closing, and these contributions go directly into the reserves. It's encouraging that your board is thinking about reserves - many new and inexperienced boards can overlook them.

However... it seems that there is a level of confusion with the books, and the board needs an accurate accounting of who paid and how much, and who did not, and what steps if any were taken to address the non-payers. Sorting out your financials is your top priority, and it's an area where some developers play fast and loose. It sounds like your community was started just before the Great Recession and Housing Market Bust. Many builders were fighting to survive during that period, so that would be an added temptation for someone whose accounting methods were lacking. Not saying that your developer is a crook, just that it's something that should be ruled out since it sounds like he was less than responsive to questions during that time.

There are law firms in Ohio that limit their clients to community associations only, and one of their areas of practice is developer transition. If the board feels like it's in over its head, or if they suspect that money has disappeared, they may want to consider bringing in professional help.

MarecaJ (Ohio)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Yes I am aware of the CC&R. While it calls for regular assessments, the sole member of the board was the developer, a non responsive local builder who had multiple injunctions against him within the county. He failed every inspection, did not provide budget nor maintain the subdivision. Another builder came in purchased lots and started to maintain the area. We had homeowners going out to replace lightbulbs after numerous attempts to get the HOA board to take action. If the sole member of the board failed on his end how can home owners be required to uphold theirs? This is a huge emotional and financial burden on most of us.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Mareca,

You sound way over your head. The Board may be over its head, too.

Are you on the Board?

Did you answer Cathy's question wrt being single family homes or condos or mix?

I would suggest that any dues were owed must be paid (should be paid since those living there received something) - and audit trail should be easy to construct - regardless of who was in control. One of several reasons for your Board to obtain the services of an attorney.

This could also simply be a case where some owners don't want to pay and are saying no. If so, then it is, again, a matter of ensuring you understand who owned and when. Then accounting for what is owed by those property owners. Then billing them accurately. Then forcing payment by various means, including liening their properties.

Absolute accuracy is required in accounting records - absolute.

Spend the money to have attorney do some initial discovery, and lay out a plan to collect - while making sure the Board is acting per CCR and state law.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
How much money total are we talking about here? Does it exceed by a lot the cost of consulting an attorney?
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Posted By MarecaJ on 01/22/2020 5:05 AM
can the newly homeowner acquired HOA, collect dues for a period where we did not have control, a voice or when the money went to a sole entity?
The Ohio statute of limitations for collecting debt is 15 years. The money is owed to the HOA pursuant to the HOA Declaration. In theory, I say yes, the board can try to collect the money, with an important caveat as follows.
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Posted By GeorgeS21 on 01/22/2020 7:44 AM
Absolute accuracy is required in accounting records - absolute.
I agree. MarecaJ, if your board does not have complete records showing how much the assessments were from 2016-2018 and who did not pay during this period, then the board needs to let this go. If I were a judge adjudicating a lawsuit by the HOA against certain HOA members for money allegedly owed the HOA, I would want to see that notices were sent to the delinquent members during the time period in question, as part of the proof that the members did not actually pay.

Too bad the developer did not actually place liens. I bet the developer did not hire a collections attorney/agency wither.

If the developer was sloppy, what will keep a member from saying, "I paid. The developer lost the record of the check being deposited."? Or how about, "I paid in cash at the developer's office. The developer lost the record."

I suspect trying to collect would be foolish. As the others noted, consult an attorney.

On the other hand, the HOA may certainly send a letter out to delinquent members requesting (as opposed to requiring) payment. A well-crafted letter may turn up some money.
MarecaJ (Ohio)
Posts: 8
Posted:
It is single family homes. I am not on the board. The very first meeting, of the newly homeowner owned HOA people self-nominated and some were nominated, then they gave a 30 spiel of why they wanted on the board, then a open forum vote. Then an immediately held a vote for the budget. Then said but we really don't know how much to have for a reserve. I don't believe any of these people have ever sat on a board.

Operating cost they are estimating $9000 per year, this is including a lawyer retainer. Not sure who the lawyer is, the board said only one person was talking to the lawyer. The lawyer recommended a reserve, the self appointed board before the HOA was turned over to the homeowners and a vote determined they needed to collect dues starting in 2015. The development began in 2007.

The Regulations only state the board can assess for the current year. The developer was the sole vote/voice/board until 31 Dec 2020. The developer never enforced collection. So it the board decided they need to collect, technically shouldn't all the money go to the developer?

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
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Posted By MarecaJ on 01/26/2020 11:13 AM

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The Regulations only state the board can assess for the current year. The developer was the sole vote/voice/board until 31 Dec 2020. The developer never enforced collection. So it the board decided they need to collect, technically shouldn't all the money go to the developer?


No. Any money owed to the HOA belongs to the HOA, not the developer. The HOA should have its own separate accounts/financial records - never commingle accounts for multiple legal entities (Accounting 101).

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