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SherryR (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
The Davis-Stirling Act in California part 1378, requires the Board of the Directors to respond promptly to written requests for modifications to units and common areas. The code required that a process with a time period for review must be outlined in the CC & R's.

In our CC & R's, this process is outlined with a 60 day period for review by the Architectual Committee which we do not have. I submitted plans for a change directly to the Board of Directors, in writting and with a signature confirming receipt of this request. Although, the Board reviewed my request and came to look at the patio, they did not reply within the 60 days as outlined in our rules.

Question: if the requirements of requesting a change has been properly submitted, and one does not received any written response from the Board within the required time of 60 days, is the request deemed approved? Can they come back after the fact and require I put things back as they were?
DaneC (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
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Posted By SherryR on 09/19/2007 11:05 AM

Question: if the requirements of requesting a change has been properly submitted, and one does not received any written response from the Board within the required time of 60 days, is the request deemed approved? Can they come back after the fact and require I put things back as they were?

Yes, because you have not rec'd "a decision in writing" - suggest you give them a gentle reminder - the contractor may become unavailable, or you are about to lose a good faith deposit, etc, remember, YOU need the approval.

1378.(a)(4) A decision on a proposed change shall be in writing. If a
proposed change is disapproved, the written decision shall include
both an explanation of why the proposed change is disapproved and a
description of the procedure for reconsideration of the decision by
the board of directors.
SherryR (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
1378.(a)(1) states: The procedure shall provide for prompt deadlines. The procedure shall state the maximum time for response to an application or a request for reconsideration by the board of directors.

I know that the approval is required to be in writing. I guess the question is this: does the Board forfeit it's approval rights if it does not meet the deadlines required by law that are stated in its own CC & R's? What is the purpose of having a required "maximum time for response to an application or request" if it is ignored?
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
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Posted By SherryR on 09/19/2007 11:05 AM
Question: if the requirements of requesting a change has been properly submitted, and one does not received any written response from the Board within the required time of 60 days, is the request deemed approved? Can they come back after the fact and require I put things back as they were?

The request is approved by default. However, I would send them a reminder and ask them to confirm their approval by failure to respond within 60days and request they respond within 7 days.
KathyS (California)
Posts: 145
Posted:
The request may be approved by default but be sure and get it in writing. We have a situation in our association where the exact thing happened. When a new Board was elected(three Boards later with none of the original Board members still on the Board), they made her life hell for not getting approval. The new MC said she couldn't locate any request for an architectural change and even though it had been four years since the homeowner made the changes, the proof lie in the hands of the homeowner, not the Board or MC. In the end, the homeowner had to change everything back or incur the daily fines this association will issue.
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
Four years later? What state are you in? I don't think I would have folded that quickly.
I agree tho that a registered letter be sent to the board thanking them for approving by default your ARC request. Why would you want to remind them the time for approval is running out? They are supposedly adults too. The original request should be by registerd letter too, to avoid these "lost" applications four years later. Harold
TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
Sherry, look deeper into your CCR. My CCR says they have 90 days and if they don't reply then it is automatically approved.

However, if your CCR is silent then you need remind the BOD that your law says you must have approval or rejection in writing within the allot time and. Get it in writing.

SherryR (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Thanks to you all for your responses. CC & R's are clear that the Board has 60 days. Because of previous dealings with this board, I hand delivered the letter to the management company and received a signed and dated receipt that it was received. The Board has visited the issue in early August, but set it aside for future discussion. That was almost 60 days ago. The next Board meeting will take place in October, after the 60 day time-frame for their response has passed.

I appreciate the advise to send a certified letter to the Board (C/O the management company) advising them of their approval by default. That would seem to be the best way to protect myself.

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