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NA (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Are they any associations out there using their group buying power to get cable tv and highspeed internet? Someone told me it might be possible to save a lot by getting group plans. Would like to hear others' opinions and experiences. If an HOA does have a group rate does everyone have to opt in?

(Verizon and Comcast are the big companies in our area.)
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Cable is an independent owner thing in most cases that I know of. In my area, we have 2 cable suppliers and they each have their own "Area". You have go with the one that provides the service in your area.

However, in our HOA, our cable and phone lines were never updated for cable modems. It would require the cable company of choice to redo all of the lines and cabling in our neighbhorhood. Unfornately, the equipment needed to do the upgrade costs the cable company about 1/2 Million to install and there are only 6 technicians available in the area that can do the job. So the cable company doesn't think that they would get enough customers in our HOA to purchase cable modems that they would see a profit. Plus, we'd have to get a majority vote to approve the cable company to come in and tear up the yards to upgrade.

So in our case, we would need a majority vote of our HOA to approve the vendor and the cable upgrade work. We most likely wouldn't get a group discount either. Our HOA isn't responsible for suppling cable access to the members and don't want to get involved with that aspect.

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JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
I think I'd hold off on that. Recent news:

"For months, AT&T and Verizon have been asking the FCC to ban cable operators from maintaining exclusive service contracts with the owners of apartment buildings, developments and MDUs (multiple dwelling units). When the phone company asks for something, the FCC delivers:
Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin is recommending prohibiting such future agreements and preventing enforcement of exclusivity clauses in existing contracts, three FCC officials say. They requested anonymity because the agency's five commissioners have not yet voted on the proposal.

Cable providers and landlords, meanwhile, argue that the FCC lacks the legal authority to intervene and that nothing is wrong with the current system. Comcast insists to the FCC that the deals bring consumers lower prices.

Consumers stuck in such cable arrangements usually don't agree. The smaller exclusive operators in particular have absolutely no competition and therefore no incentive to improve, so they frequently offer pricey services, few features and limited customer support.

Verizon, of course, is making a big push this year into the MDU market with FiOS, and last we checked, they had some exclusive deals of their own. Such deals are sometimes extreme; one development in Virginia is locked into an exclusive 75-year service contract with a FTTH company residents say is unreliable and overpriced."

If this comes through, you won't want to be stuck in a long-exclusive contract that your owners can opt out of.

Joe

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NancyD1 (Florida)
Posts: 447
Posted:
Our community uses Comcast cable. The builder signed us into a 20 year deal. Comcast bought out the previous cable co. 1 year ago. Comcast took over the contract that we had with the previous co. In our contract we pay for basic cable services to every home. This is whether there is a resident in the premises or not. At this time we have about 40 homeowners who are not year round residents. We still pay for each one. If you do not want cable, don't connect it, but the HOA still pays for it.

When a homeowner wants the premium channels they also have to pay for basic. So most of our homes are double paying for basic. The price the HOA pays is about half of what any person would pay for basic. Cable internet connection is the HO responsibility.

I understand that most cable co.'s will not wire a new "development" unless they are guaranteed a contract for their services.
NA (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Wow Nancy, that's an awful deal! I'm sure Comcast loves it.

Though not an HOA, I love what Philly did to get high speed wi-fi to everyone in the city. They got Earthlink to blanket the city with wi-fi and offer it at very affordable rates ($6.95-$19.95/mo).

Made me think if a whole city can have wifi then wifi for a 200+ townhouse community should be easy in comparison! Most of my neighbors have wi-fi now and I just think how crazy it is that we are each paying 40-60/month for it.

The other thing is verizon is heavily pushing fios in our town. I wanted it but was told basically it could be forever before it comes to our community b/c they would likely have to do the whole community at once.
RebeccaM1 (Florida)
Posts: 43
Posted:
Contracting for cable through the HOA has worked out very well for my community. We do not live in an area of Florida that ComCast services, so perhaps that is why. We had another option. Additionally, we are not bound by a contract with our cable services. We could conceivably cancel at any time, though I don't think we would even consider it. My unit owners save approx. 50% by paying for their cable as an Association.

Has anyone had experience with Satellite versus Digital Cable in an Association setting?
KentS (Maryland)
Posts: 12
Posted:
We have an oceanfront condo that did this. Rates are much cheaper when you do a group deal but everyone is stuck with the same programming. Also, the condominium has to pay the whole monthly bill to the supplier and then bill the condo owners for the service. The board initially announced that they wanted a vote on the issue and if any owner voted against it, they would do the group service. After the vote was take and three or four owners (including us) voted against it, the board announced that it had changed its mind and would do it anyway; everyone would have to participate and would be billed for the service each month. Since we already had our own satellite dish and equipment and did not want to join the group plan, we advised that we believed the boards action was illegal because it violated FCC restrictions on satellite dish installations. We advised that if we were forced to pay for this service or the board interferred with our use of our satelitte dish, we would see a ruling for the FCC. Since these rulings almost always go against the condominium restrictions, the board left us and a few others out of the group buy.
ZurielC (Florida)
Posts: 7
Posted:
All,

Some of you might have read that the FCC is now banning long term contracts with cable tv providers. I have now started a website to support the FCC. I live in Live Oak Preserve where we the Board have tried every way to get out of a unethical contract left behind by the builder and his brother who owns the cable (PCO) company. For those of you are on the same boat is we are in please visit www.banbulkbilling.com to express your concerns and support the FCC. There you will also find details on petition instruction to fill a comment with the FCC.

Has any one here been able to get out of their long term cable contracts?

Regards,
ZC

WillB2 (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
I see this post is from many years ago. Anyone still active on this discussion?

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