AnonY2 (Florida)
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Hi all,
I'm an HOA president in Florida, and we have a homeowner who moved in about a year ago who hasn't been paying any dues, and generally is disrespectful to the neighbors and a nuissance to the negiborhood. He started renting out his place on AirBNB as well, and since then, him and his guests have been littering and have made the problem much worse (the county has a pay by amount of trash program, and he selected the smallest size can, and with the AirBNB rental, its inadequate to handle his trash, so they just liter instead of upgrading the can size). The AirBNB is not restricted by our documents, and the litering is difficult to definitively prove its him, and its also supposed to be a county issue, but code enforcement doesn't seem equipped to handle the complaint with the non-responsive homeowner after trying to work with them for months on it.
The biggest problem is our HOA dues our low, so his account balance is still low. Our dues are only $300 for the year, and his account balance is still a bit under $1k. It doesn't make much sense for us to hire an attorney to try to collect a few hundred dollars when the attorney is likely going to end up collecting more then that from us, and we obviously no guaranteed success. Our past collections procedure has generally been to keep tacking on late fees, interest, and a lein, either till the person finally starts paying (or gets on a payment plan) or tries to sell their home, at which point they are forced to have all violations corrected and pay all the backed fees and interest for the estoppel and release of lien, and so far, that has been a very low cost and effective collection mechanism.
I'm trying to figure out what options we have to stop this guy from getting away with literally everything. His credit score is no doubt really bad, as my understanding is he tries to not pay bills for his services with everyone to try to sort out who he can get away with it on. He's already had all of his utilities shut off for non payment, but then paid them as soon as he realized they would actually shut them off. I guess he's gotten away with non-payment for a variety of things before, from what I hear, he's a con artist for a living, and he does have money (no mortgage, which is super unusual for a non-paying member, thats another reason we typically haven't bothered to go beyond the lien on past non-payers, the banks would typically take care of it for us eventually).
Obviously a good first step would be to somehow collect his HOA dues. I know Florida has a law that allows us to demand rental payments by the tenants to be made towards the HOA dues for deliquent members. Does that work with AirBNB? Is it collectable from AirBNB, since obviously the actual tenant is paying AirBNB and constantly changing, so unlike the usual tenant situation, we don't really have the ability to evict them for non-payment since the time period is so short and they're paying to AirBNB. Has anyone heard of any situation where an HOA has been able to demand collection from AirBNB?
Or does anyone else have advice on how to handle this matter? (outside of consulting with the association attorney, we don't want to end up spending more then our losses to try to punish the guy)
I'm an HOA president in Florida, and we have a homeowner who moved in about a year ago who hasn't been paying any dues, and generally is disrespectful to the neighbors and a nuissance to the negiborhood. He started renting out his place on AirBNB as well, and since then, him and his guests have been littering and have made the problem much worse (the county has a pay by amount of trash program, and he selected the smallest size can, and with the AirBNB rental, its inadequate to handle his trash, so they just liter instead of upgrading the can size). The AirBNB is not restricted by our documents, and the litering is difficult to definitively prove its him, and its also supposed to be a county issue, but code enforcement doesn't seem equipped to handle the complaint with the non-responsive homeowner after trying to work with them for months on it.
The biggest problem is our HOA dues our low, so his account balance is still low. Our dues are only $300 for the year, and his account balance is still a bit under $1k. It doesn't make much sense for us to hire an attorney to try to collect a few hundred dollars when the attorney is likely going to end up collecting more then that from us, and we obviously no guaranteed success. Our past collections procedure has generally been to keep tacking on late fees, interest, and a lein, either till the person finally starts paying (or gets on a payment plan) or tries to sell their home, at which point they are forced to have all violations corrected and pay all the backed fees and interest for the estoppel and release of lien, and so far, that has been a very low cost and effective collection mechanism.
I'm trying to figure out what options we have to stop this guy from getting away with literally everything. His credit score is no doubt really bad, as my understanding is he tries to not pay bills for his services with everyone to try to sort out who he can get away with it on. He's already had all of his utilities shut off for non payment, but then paid them as soon as he realized they would actually shut them off. I guess he's gotten away with non-payment for a variety of things before, from what I hear, he's a con artist for a living, and he does have money (no mortgage, which is super unusual for a non-paying member, thats another reason we typically haven't bothered to go beyond the lien on past non-payers, the banks would typically take care of it for us eventually).
Obviously a good first step would be to somehow collect his HOA dues. I know Florida has a law that allows us to demand rental payments by the tenants to be made towards the HOA dues for deliquent members. Does that work with AirBNB? Is it collectable from AirBNB, since obviously the actual tenant is paying AirBNB and constantly changing, so unlike the usual tenant situation, we don't really have the ability to evict them for non-payment since the time period is so short and they're paying to AirBNB. Has anyone heard of any situation where an HOA has been able to demand collection from AirBNB?
Or does anyone else have advice on how to handle this matter? (outside of consulting with the association attorney, we don't want to end up spending more then our losses to try to punish the guy)