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ConchoP (Texas)
Posts: 208
Posted:
We are trying to amend our CC&R and I've reading TPC 209 and I"m unclear if the membership has to vote on a Special Assessments.

Sec. 209.006 is notice required
Sec. 209.0051 H;E, 6: says board may not, consider a vote on special assessments unless done in a open meeting for which prior notice was given

But I look on other HOA's CC&R's and they want a vote by the members of 67% or some have 70% those % made me think that TPC 209 requires a vote by the membership, but maybe that is the choice of the HOA.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
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Posted By ConchoP on 04/22/2019 10:57 AM
We are trying to amend our CC&R and I've reading TPC 209 and I"m unclear if the membership has to vote on a Special Assessments.

Sec. 209.006 is notice required
Sec. 209.0051 H;E, 6: says board may not, consider a vote on special assessments unless done in a open meeting for which prior notice was given

But I look on other HOA's CC&R's and they want a vote by the members of 67% or some have 70% those % made me think that TPC 209 requires a vote by the membership, but maybe that is the choice of the HOA.

I don't know about TX law, but the bolded section suggests to me that this only requires a board meeting properly noticed and open to members. I think if a member's meeting was required, it would be explicitly stated.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
Concho, the answer is in the explicit language in your documents regarding Special Assessments. Under some associations, Special Assessments for maintenance and repair/replacement do not require Association approval but new capital infrastructure projects do.

209.0051 only requires the Special Assessment to be voted upon in a properly noticed meeting of the Board which is open to the owners--as are all such meetings in Texas.

What is the language in your documents? Probably the Declaration but look at the Bylaws as well as sometimes language in both will apply.

What is the purpose of the Special Assessment? You should not spring this on the owners without an informational campaign or town hall meeting to explain what is needed and why.

BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
Conch, my mistake. I read your original post quickly and did not catch you are working on amending your documents and not dealing with the need for a Special Assessment.

The core of my advice stands: what is the language in your documents today regarding Special Assessments? I strongly urge you to allow the Board to approve a Special Assessment for repairs, replacements, and maintenance if needed as obtaining association approval for repairs and maintenance is a massive challenge--read headache. Some documents limit how frequently a Special Assessment can take place, if it is felt you need some constraints you should consider applying an interval constraint. Do not attempt to limit the amount of money, you could find yourself in a situation where you need a great deal of money with no way to raise it.

Requiring association approval for capital improvements, like installing a pool, should be left to the members to decide.
ConchoP (Texas)
Posts: 208
Posted:
Thank you Bill, our current documents do not give any direction on Special Assessments. The committee working on the amended draft doesn't want a board just to go special assessment crazy.

We are leaning toward: the board can vote on a Special Assessment with a written estimate by a vendor of $10,000 or less and $10,000 and above require a special meeting of the membership and vote by the members. Our quorum number is members in attendance, so we don't have to worry about meeting a quorum and everyone would at least have written notice a Special Assessment might be forth coming and they have a chance to come to a meeting learn why they need the assessment and vote.

Any advise on this is welcomed.
BarbaraT1 (Texas)
Posts: 821
Posted:
Just don't make the approval requirements too onerous. I used to work with a small townhouse complex - their documents required 100% homeowner approval for a special assessment. They needed to asses to repair a retaining wall separating their complex from a neighboring one. Some homeowners simply refused to vote yes. The neighboring complex is currently suing them as a result. The foundation is damaged in several of the units - again, they need a special assessment. Owners in unaffected units won't vote yes. Nobody in the entire complex can sell or refinance because of the lawsuit and the broken foundation - all because a couple of people who apparently never plan on moving refuse to accept their responsibility and approve the damn assessment.
BarbaraT1 (Texas)
Posts: 821
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Posted By ConchoP on 04/22/2019 12:04 PM
Thank you Bill, our current documents do not give any direction on Special Assessments. The committee working on the amended draft doesn't want a board just to go special assessment crazy.

We are leaning toward: the board can vote on a Special Assessment with a written estimate by a vendor of $10,000 or less and $10,000 and above require a special meeting of the membership and vote by the members. Our quorum number is members in attendance, so we don't have to worry about meeting a quorum and everyone would at least have written notice a Special Assessment might be forth coming and they have a chance to come to a meeting learn why they need the assessment and vote.

Any advise on this is welcomed.

$10,000 isn't much, unless your annual budget is $20k. Why would you even need to special asses for such a small amount?
ConchoP (Texas)
Posts: 208
Posted:
We were brainstorming and just thru out a number. I would go with $30k and the board can only assess annually. That like $100 per homeowner.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It's best if your doing a special assessment to base it on REAL numbers. Like the bill is going to be 10K and you have 100 members. Divide that 10K amongst all 100 evenly. Don't say we want to assess 15K because the extra 5K can go to other projects... That doesn't sit well. Set the amount to the bill give or take variances that may come up.

I believe it's also best for the membership to vote not just board members. Board members are members too. They will be the ones responsible for the final say anyways after they get the proper votes.

Former HOA President
JaredC (Texas)
Posts: 264
Posted:
This is a double edged sword Concho and definitely requires thoughtful consideration. I'm in Texas and let me give you a cautionary example.

I was our HOA president for 11-12 years. Our HOA has 24 units. I can say without hyperbole that roughly 50% of our homeowners are ignorant morons and have no clue or care about fiscal responsibility, the welfare of our community, or concern for anyone other than themselves. As a result we have a board that is as bad as any HOA board can be. Seriously we have officers with significant personality disorders who have done things that would make your head spin. Unbelievable things.

Secondly you or your current board won't hold power forever so when you amend the Covenants you need to consider two critical items. 1) How do you protect the HOA from a bad board? 2)How do you protect idiotic and/or apathetic homeowners from themselves?

Our CC&R's currently require approval from 67% of the homeowners and assessments can only be made once per calendar year for a period that lasts not longer than a calendar year.

If we had to do it all over again I would take the advice from this thread and do something more like:
If a repair is estimated to cost more than 25% of the current annual maintenance fee income then approval of >50% of a quorum of homeowners during a members meeting must be achieved. If the board, acting on its own, approves two consecutive annual special assessments then 50% of homeowners present at a members meeting must approve any special assessment for the next two consecutive years.

A cooling off period of sorts. This puts a limit on the amount of money that can be assessed by the board alone and protects homeowners from never ending assessments by bad boards while eliminating the reality of apathetic homeonwer's who have no care for fiscal responsibility.

Just at thought anyway.
ConchoP (Texas)
Posts: 208
Posted:
JaredC you hit the nail on the head..lol

We have took your advise and geared toward our homeowners (300 homes)many with redneck attitudes.. we are located out of the city limits.

We may change the % but this is what we are looking at:

The Board has to call a Special Meeting - Notice for a special assessment shall include the total of the estimate, name of the vendor, and the cost per homeowner. - we did this so every homeowner is notified in writing how much the will be to them, so they can't call fowl.

Special Assessments:
a. Shall only be assessed on an annual basis;
b. a Special Meeting of the Membership shall be called, according to the HOA Bylaws, Article III, 3.04 Special Meetings;
c. if repair/ improvement is estimated to cost more than 25% of the current fiscal year’s annual fee collected, then approval of 50% homeowners present during Special Meeting must be achieved;
d. estimated costs less than 25% of the current fiscal year’s annual fee collected, the board alone shall vote at the Special Meeting.

BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
Concho

I crafted a message for you yesterday and must not have pushed the submit button.

The essence of my message was a concern you and your colleagues will box yourselves in regarding a special assessment.

ISTR you live south, San Antonio, Houston, someplace like that. You are susceptible to hurricanes which we do not have to be as much concerned about in the DFW area.

I recommend you tote up the expense of the insurance deductibles for which the association would be responsible in a worst case scenario. I would then add to that figure the worst case scenario expense if your association had to replace all the 'soft' assets, such as landscaping, which are not insurable.

That sum should be the minimum Special Assessment which could be agreed to by the Board. The owners should not ever be a part of the Special Assessment approval process for maintenance, repairs, and replacements. You will find there will always be those who will oppose a Special Assessment no matter how sound the cost justification.

The owners should always be part of the approval process if a new capital expenditure is being considered--pool, clubhouse, etc. But only if the capital improvement is something new, not the repair or replacement of an existing asset.

Finally, whatever figure you agree upon today will probably not stand the test of time. You should include some kind of year over year percentage increase so when the Big One hits in 2025, your board is not shackled by not being able to raise enough money to meet the needs of the association.

ChrisR12 (Texas)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Last year our HOA here in Texas approved a Special Assessment to improve our gated community by adding a clubhouse and pool. We have collected near $100K towards our $500K goal. Since then our streets have deteriorated tremendously due to heavy trucks being used for several homes that are under construction. My question is can the HOA delay the clubhouse, pool build and repurpose the funds already collected, and instead use it for street repairs. Obviously we would over-communicate to the homeowners our intent to use the funds to improve the roads so they would be safe for us to drive on as well as our intent to only temporarily delay the clubhouse and pool.
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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Posted By ChrisR12 on 08/19/2022 5:40 AM
Last year our HOA here in Texas approved a Special Assessment to improve our gated community by adding a clubhouse and pool. We have collected near $100K towards our $500K goal. Since then our streets have deteriorated tremendously due to heavy trucks being used for several homes that are under construction. My question is can the HOA delay the clubhouse, pool build and repurpose the funds already collected, and instead use it for street repairs. Obviously we would over-communicate to the homeowners our intent to use the funds to improve the roads so they would be safe for us to drive on as well as our intent to only temporarily delay the clubhouse and pool.

It is my understanding that you can only use this money for the stated purposes of the special assessment. Also, why would you not hold off until the clubhouse and pool are built? Won't there be heavy trucks coming in and out during construction?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
This is an old post - for some reason, these have been popping up a lot in recent months.

Since things can and do change in HOA land fairly quickly, PLEASE CHECK THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL POST BEFORE YOU RESPOND! It'll save you lots of time if you have a question, especially if the post is over 6 months old. Better to start a new conversation with your question so you can get current information.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ChrisR12 (Texas)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thank you for the quick reply JohnT38. There will be ongoing construction on multiple homes at any given time. It will be quite an exercise in upgrading the street while construction is taking place.

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