LanceG1 (Georgia)
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Posts: 97
Posted:
I'm a new board member in a Georgia HOA.
One of the reasons I ran is because I saw some things that were a bit concerning. One of the issues that we are dealing with is that we have a yearly assessment that is due on the 31st of January. Our CCR's etc. do not state a due date. Last year we also changed management companies and the assessment doubled from $150 a year to $300.
We are in a relatively affluent neighborhood for the area and right now 47% of our homeowners are past due with the 2019 assessment and have had a late charge applied (we have 130 homes).
Some other things.
One neighbor in my cul-de-sac who is is the type that is always super organized, on top of everything etc.. only found out that the dues went up and that they were past due because their mortgage company called them to let them know. They contacted the old management company, who referred them to the new management company who told them about the new fees etc.. They never received a notice about the new management company, the increase in the assessment etc.. They contacted me and only then found out that I was on the board and that there had recently been a board meeting (I would have made a point to tell them about it if I'd known they were not receiving mail). The Management Company is stating that they sent out a notice to this person and our secretary is blaming the post office as the reason this person did not receive the previous notices. After the management company was contacted about this this person received a past due bill with a late fee attached.
Another neighbor moved in mid last year. After I got on the board I was checking some of the HOA records after the one neighbor had the issue with the mail and noticed that this new neighbor was not even listed in the management companies system as the owner of the property. They had also been in touch with the HOA shortly after they moved in to submit a ACC request to change the color of their house which was approved. Yet, as recently as today their lot was listed under the previous management company who's mailing address probably different from the house in the our management companies system. When I saw that I reached out to them to see if they had received any mail from the HOA and they responded that they hadn't but were under the impression they they had pre-paid for the year. I diplomatically informed them about how it works vs what they understood, they are sorting out getting their assessment caught up, but have had a late fee and interest tacked on to their account.
Also, out of the 11 home sales in the neighborhood during the past year, 3, including that one neighbor have the wrong owner listed in the management companies system.
Given what I'm seeing here I'm inclined to think that we, the HOA, have some issues on our end. I've suggested doing a blanket 2019 assessment late fee amnesty for 60 days (ie: if your past due on the 2019 assessment, get it caught up in 60 days and we will waive the late fee), and sending a friendly reminder. The rest of the board does not seem to be receptive to that.
Our secretary is the designated contact person with the management company and was on the board last year. After the amnesty push back I asked them if we were in a similar position last year and this persons response was "I don't remember, it was on auto pilot for this kind of thing".
In my mind, if we have made some reasonable efforts to notify the neighbors of the due date and amount and a few are late, then a late fee is appropriate. But in our case there is some reasonable doubt, especially given how many homeowners are late, so I would think that using the carrot before jumping to the late fee stick would be more reasonable, and overall create less conflict. AKA, when we use the stick it's because we've taken extra effort with the carrot and you never responded, so we had to use it vs, we made a half hearted effort with the carrot and are now going to hit you with the stick.
Does anybody have any experience with this?
Lance
One of the reasons I ran is because I saw some things that were a bit concerning. One of the issues that we are dealing with is that we have a yearly assessment that is due on the 31st of January. Our CCR's etc. do not state a due date. Last year we also changed management companies and the assessment doubled from $150 a year to $300.
We are in a relatively affluent neighborhood for the area and right now 47% of our homeowners are past due with the 2019 assessment and have had a late charge applied (we have 130 homes).
Some other things.
One neighbor in my cul-de-sac who is is the type that is always super organized, on top of everything etc.. only found out that the dues went up and that they were past due because their mortgage company called them to let them know. They contacted the old management company, who referred them to the new management company who told them about the new fees etc.. They never received a notice about the new management company, the increase in the assessment etc.. They contacted me and only then found out that I was on the board and that there had recently been a board meeting (I would have made a point to tell them about it if I'd known they were not receiving mail). The Management Company is stating that they sent out a notice to this person and our secretary is blaming the post office as the reason this person did not receive the previous notices. After the management company was contacted about this this person received a past due bill with a late fee attached.
Another neighbor moved in mid last year. After I got on the board I was checking some of the HOA records after the one neighbor had the issue with the mail and noticed that this new neighbor was not even listed in the management companies system as the owner of the property. They had also been in touch with the HOA shortly after they moved in to submit a ACC request to change the color of their house which was approved. Yet, as recently as today their lot was listed under the previous management company who's mailing address probably different from the house in the our management companies system. When I saw that I reached out to them to see if they had received any mail from the HOA and they responded that they hadn't but were under the impression they they had pre-paid for the year. I diplomatically informed them about how it works vs what they understood, they are sorting out getting their assessment caught up, but have had a late fee and interest tacked on to their account.
Also, out of the 11 home sales in the neighborhood during the past year, 3, including that one neighbor have the wrong owner listed in the management companies system.
Given what I'm seeing here I'm inclined to think that we, the HOA, have some issues on our end. I've suggested doing a blanket 2019 assessment late fee amnesty for 60 days (ie: if your past due on the 2019 assessment, get it caught up in 60 days and we will waive the late fee), and sending a friendly reminder. The rest of the board does not seem to be receptive to that.
Our secretary is the designated contact person with the management company and was on the board last year. After the amnesty push back I asked them if we were in a similar position last year and this persons response was "I don't remember, it was on auto pilot for this kind of thing".
In my mind, if we have made some reasonable efforts to notify the neighbors of the due date and amount and a few are late, then a late fee is appropriate. But in our case there is some reasonable doubt, especially given how many homeowners are late, so I would think that using the carrot before jumping to the late fee stick would be more reasonable, and overall create less conflict. AKA, when we use the stick it's because we've taken extra effort with the carrot and you never responded, so we had to use it vs, we made a half hearted effort with the carrot and are now going to hit you with the stick.
Does anybody have any experience with this?
Lance