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HectorR (Florida)
Posts: 84
Posted:
Created this website which im ready to pass out business cards with the website address for the homeowners to see. Please send me your thoughts. This will be my final attempt to remove the board members. I feel very nervous about this.
http://www.serenalakesurgent.com/main-page
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Hector, I am impressed, and this rarely happens for me here at hoatalk com. I think the wording, presentation, photos(!), links and downloadable proxy, disclaimer and more are fantastic. Suggestions:

-- Delete all or nearly all exclamation marks (that is, all the !) and replace with a single period. Maybe leave the one exclamation mark that appears on the tab for the web site.

-- Replace words in all capital letters with words in small letters.

-- Delete repeating question marks. Use only single question marks.

-- The facts speak for themselves here. The above punctuation is superfluous and distracts. It kind of gives an impression of panic and 'drama' instead of cool-minded calculation. You are obviously all about cool-minded calculation and the stuff of a good director.

-- The link to the Miami Herald article failed.

-- Maybe delete the word "shady." Accusations of criminal activity are the number one reason why defamation suits happen between people at HOAs. Perhaps a safer word is "competent"? Maybe other hoatalk com readers will have other suggestions. I am not wild about the word "scandal" either, especially bolded and highlighed. Maybe replace the word "scandal" with "questionable conduct" and do not bold and highlight it? I think the excerpt from the Miami Herald article all by itself is powerful.

-- I see your community is a condominium. It is almost guaranteed the Florida statute on condominiums applies. See http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0718/0718.html . Search the latter site for the phrase "conflict of interest." The statute has some interesting requirements regarding the conflict of interest your board president-director appears to have. I would post the sections of the statute at your web site.

AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
One other thing: Try to anticipate how the Board and HOA attorney will respond and what you can do to rejoin their response. The Board and HOA attorney likely will abuse HOA resources to campaign against you.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Hector

Reduce the size and colors. Make it more a letter than a Bulletin Board. It will be easier to read. As it stands now, it is difficult to read.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I have some experience in unseating ineffective board members and in web design, so here are my thoughts:

* Make it clear that you are a resident and do not speak for the association (I think you do that already.)

* Take the high road!!! Be careful that you avoid anything that can appear defamatory. The current board may be all the bad things you believe they are. But frankly the majority of homeowners won't understand what you're talking about and don't want to wallow in negativity. You don't want to put them off.

* Building on that, outline how a new board can make homeowners' lives better. Make them see it.

* Boil your message down into an "elevator" speech and use bullet points. Three seems to be the magic number that folks can keep in their minds - more than that and you'll start to lose them.

* I strongly recommend finding one of those web hosting companies that offer free web sites and use one of their templates. If your web site is hard on the eyes, people won't read it. If it's poorly organized, they won't understand it. The templates help solve both of these problems.

You've probably already thought of this, but don't forget all the folks who aren't on line. When I ran my campaign not so many years ago, it was strictly paper flyers and walking around talking to people and getting proxies. That may or may not be practical depending on the size of your community. Hosting a Meet the Candidates night can also be helpful.

GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Hector,

I would really tone down ANYTHING that doesn't look or read like a business letter - it's OK to have larger text, but don't mix colors, don't mix font sizes.

State the reason for the site, what you would like people to take away from reading it, etc.

Be clear and concise.

Most folks don't like pages that require one to scroll ... try and make the key points on one page, then link, as required.

Eliminate socially pejorative language and don't rant.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
I guess the rules of posting one's HOA name or name don't apply anymore?
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
I applaud the hard work you did to put that together, Hector. Personally, I wouldn't vote for you. If the president is on the title of a home NOW then the issue is moot as to whether or not he was in 2012. It's not a conflict if the president is not a director OF THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. Of course he's a director of your association. If your Governing Documents do not permit two members from the same household to be on the board at the same time then it's perfectly OK that a husband and wife are both on the board. Check your documents for that because the state of Florida doesn't care otherwise. It's not illegal at all.

The association should NOT in any way establish a Neighborhood Watch or a Crime Watch committee. No association should want to be officially involved in any of that (it's OK if the community wants to set that up outside of the control and approval of the board).

Again, I appreciate you want to make your community a better place but I question your command of the facts. Nice website, but you fail to identify what money is being spent on that you object to. Nevertheless it's your right to drum up support for your agenda and candidates, no matter if you're right or wrong.
HectorR (Florida)
Posts: 84
Posted:
Thank you all for your replies.
If anyone else has any feed back, please share.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GenoS on 02/20/2019 12:59 PM
If your Governing Documents do not permit two members from the same household to be on the board at the same time then it's perfectly OK that a husband and wife are both on the board. Check your documents for that because the state of Florida doesn't care otherwise.


I disagree. Hector lives in a Florida condominium. From the Florida Condominium Statute:

"In a residential condominium association of more than 10 units or in a residential condominium association that does not include timeshare units or timeshare interests, coowners of a unit may not serve as members of the board of directors at the same time unless they own more than one unit or unless there are not enough eligible candidates to fill the vacancies on the board at the time of the vacancy."

See FS 718.112(2)(d) at http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0718/Sections/0718.112.html

Else I think 'flashy' works well for a campaign web site.
HectorR (Florida)
Posts: 84
Posted:
That is correct, I live in an HOA not condo. For both to be on the board they must own 2 homes. The wife of the president filed a quit claim deen on May on her second home. Therefore she should had never been on the board after may kf 2018 but they kept her on. I was not aware of this when i was on the board. It's after I stepped down that I began my investigation and I found this information.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By HectorR on 02/20/2019 2:00 PM
That is correct, I live in an HOA not condo.


Then I assumed too much from the many hits that came up, upon googling the name of your community, saying it is a condominium. Be aware that some communities incorporated as condominiums have the phrase "homeowners' association" in their governing documents when in fact under corporate law, they are condominiums.

I do not see anything in the Florida HOA statute disallowing co-owners of a single unit to serve on the HOA board.

BarbaraT1 (Texas)
Posts: 821
Posted:
Why is the font so big? Too many colors, too many all-caps, too many exclamation points.

No examples of mismanagement of funds, just vague accusations.

Nothing here would convince me to give you my proxy. Quite the opposite, actually. You're not giving yourself any credibility. Reading this, I'd think "this guy was on the board, was a troublemaker, he got kicked off, and now he wants revenge." I'm not suggesting that's the truth, I'm telling you that's the impression I'm getting from your site.

Reduce the font, don't center it, word it like a a business letter. No colors, no caps, no exclamation points. Provide concrete examples of expenditures you felt were unnecessary. Provide multiple, specific examples as to why you feel this board is not acting in the best interests of the association.

On a side note, your assertion that if properly managed, HOA dues should go down is completely unrealistic and is going to come back to bite you if homeowners vote you in and you can't lower the dues.

HectorR (Florida)
Posts: 84
Posted:
I appreciate everyones oppinios,
I was not kicked out, I stepped down. Because I refused to work with incompetent board memebers.
I know some may not like how the website looks but I have no time to change it now.
At the end of the day, I have to get my message across. I want what is best for the community, our community is falling apart. Street signs are leaning, speed humps need replacing, trees are not being trimmed our pools are run down..etc.etc
I did not place dollar figures in the website because my focus is to remove the board and take the dues back down to $129.00 a month. Our dues were raised by $3.00 a month in December according to the board memebers they were raised due to cost of living getting higher. At the end of the day if I do not become unsuccessful at removing the board with the help of owners, they can never say that I warned them. My consious will be clean and then I will move on with my life.
RoyalP
Posts: 1,104
Posted:
soooooooooooooo ... according to YOU ... "our community is falling apart"

therefor ... also according to YOU ... "take the dues back down to $129.00 a month"

Makes perfect sense to me .................... NOT
HectorR (Florida)
Posts: 84
Posted:
Yes Royal IP...we always had and still have the money for capital improvements.
And in Dec 26th they raise our dues because of cost of living getting expensive. Yet our community comtinues to look run down. I have faith and i stongly belive in faith and i know wemay not get the dues back down if we get a new board. I have been living there for 18 years and the reason I got on the board in the first place was to try and get the board to work together as a team and involve homeowners. But this board continues to act like they own the community. Its time that all homeowners take action and expose all the nonsense with all these board members. And if no one votes for me thats fine at least the message is out there and i tried.
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Uh ... $3?
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GeorgeS21 on 02/20/2019 10:38 AM
Hector,

I would really tone down ANYTHING that doesn't look or read like a business letter - it's OK to have larger text, but don't mix colors, don't mix font sizes.

State the reason for the site, what you would like people to take away from reading it, etc.

Be clear and concise.

Most folks don't like pages that require one to scroll ... try and make the key points on one page, then link, as required.

Eliminate socially pejorative language and don't rant.

I agree w/ George. Nice work on the website but it's a large, one-page website that requires scrolling.

In terms of HOA attorneys and the like, your site reads like any political campaign. I see nothing wrong w/ stating your opinion that "The Community is Falling Apart! Don't sign Proxies!"

I don't see an issue w/ the messaging, just the need for simplification.

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