LeeR2 (Wisconsin)
Posts: 7
Posts: 7
Posted:
Home Owners Association:
Good Day: I am certainly not new to Associations, Boards, Committees and their related problems as I am 70 years old and have been on a County Board for years and various committees. In addition to that I have been in the Real Estate and Development Business, owning our own company for years. In this time period I have been the Declarant of numerous HOA's prior to transition.
This surely doesn't make me an expert but in 45 years I thought I saw everything.
As I have a small Hobby Farm in Wisconsin and this Association is in southern Alabama you can imagine the logistical problems.
My wife and I bought a piece of property in this "Subdivision" on the river. As we were one of the first buyers and no HOA was in place, I notice the BY Laws and Covenants and one Amendment was over kill for a basically recreational community
I went to the Declarant and expressed my thoughts and as two men having had extensive experience , I explained the potential problems that as they were a National Developer, used a.BOILER PLATE set of rules for ALL their developments. I explained these By Laws were more suited to an exclusive golf course community. He admitted as much but as his job was to sell out the project he assured me that it would all work itself out. He and I knew that problems would arise and as he was the soe DECLARANT prior to any formation of a HOA he had the authority to grant me an exclusion or exemption to a certain part of the up coming By Laws.
He asked what I needed, which was because of the 1,200 mile one way distance and the fact I had bought an acreage RECREATIONAL Lot, not a WATERFRONT lot I would be able to use my RV 120 days a year on a Calendar Year basis. I told him I would like to build a storage building to store the RV in when not in use
He agreed to this but asked for some sort of rendition of the building. I explained to a neighbor that I was going to meet with the Declarant on this issue, she too had this concern and asked if she could be there. It just so happened that the Declarant was inspecting the property on an ATV and we stopped him on the road. I showed him the exact building I would like to build as well as it's intended usage. He drew in a couple of suggested changes and initialed it and said OK. The neighbor was a witness as well as my wife.
This worked great for over 6 years. We came down in December and left in April storing our RV until next year. I put $22,000 in improvements, septic, well, electric, well etc. This survived 3 board changes including the present board.
The Board is non compliant in their formation and as the only authority is the Chairman who is absent a minimum of 6 months of the year and has not designated a co chairman so the meeting is called , opened and Chaired by the Treasurer who also doubles as secretary as the secretary is a token woman.
The Chairman had use of my land up until this year that I found he was abusing this privilege and and asked him to no longer trespass my property. This angered him and he fancies himself a real bully, He waited until myself and one of the board members parked my RV for the year and "UPDATED THE BY LAWS" , a term I have never heard in 45 years.
He attempted to not acknowledge my exemption and include me in the HOA and put restrictions that caused me to remove my RV and now sell my property.
Attempting to find an Southern attorney for a person from Wisconsin proved to be a daunting task. I retained an attorney here and the attorney they hired down there is very aware that a Wisconsin attorney can ask for information but told her I was wasting her time and my money.
They were to have a board meeting in October and we were told by the Treasurer that meetings of those minutes would be distributed in January when he payed the bills. The Chairman was in Wyoming and do not see how a meeting was held but told this was common practice. I asked that a letter be read regarding my exemption and include in the minutes of the meeting. I wanted to do this for years but each board Chairman and board assured me that my building and usage was in place way before an HOA was formed and no need.
I have the drawing, the time frame, an signed, notarized affidavit am getting nowhere.
I am a combat decorated Veteran with Disabled Citizen Classification. This an a dollar gets me a cup of coffee at the gas station..
Any suggestions???
Thanks, Lee Rigby
Good Day: I am certainly not new to Associations, Boards, Committees and their related problems as I am 70 years old and have been on a County Board for years and various committees. In addition to that I have been in the Real Estate and Development Business, owning our own company for years. In this time period I have been the Declarant of numerous HOA's prior to transition.
This surely doesn't make me an expert but in 45 years I thought I saw everything.
As I have a small Hobby Farm in Wisconsin and this Association is in southern Alabama you can imagine the logistical problems.
My wife and I bought a piece of property in this "Subdivision" on the river. As we were one of the first buyers and no HOA was in place, I notice the BY Laws and Covenants and one Amendment was over kill for a basically recreational community
I went to the Declarant and expressed my thoughts and as two men having had extensive experience , I explained the potential problems that as they were a National Developer, used a.BOILER PLATE set of rules for ALL their developments. I explained these By Laws were more suited to an exclusive golf course community. He admitted as much but as his job was to sell out the project he assured me that it would all work itself out. He and I knew that problems would arise and as he was the soe DECLARANT prior to any formation of a HOA he had the authority to grant me an exclusion or exemption to a certain part of the up coming By Laws.
He asked what I needed, which was because of the 1,200 mile one way distance and the fact I had bought an acreage RECREATIONAL Lot, not a WATERFRONT lot I would be able to use my RV 120 days a year on a Calendar Year basis. I told him I would like to build a storage building to store the RV in when not in use
He agreed to this but asked for some sort of rendition of the building. I explained to a neighbor that I was going to meet with the Declarant on this issue, she too had this concern and asked if she could be there. It just so happened that the Declarant was inspecting the property on an ATV and we stopped him on the road. I showed him the exact building I would like to build as well as it's intended usage. He drew in a couple of suggested changes and initialed it and said OK. The neighbor was a witness as well as my wife.
This worked great for over 6 years. We came down in December and left in April storing our RV until next year. I put $22,000 in improvements, septic, well, electric, well etc. This survived 3 board changes including the present board.
The Board is non compliant in their formation and as the only authority is the Chairman who is absent a minimum of 6 months of the year and has not designated a co chairman so the meeting is called , opened and Chaired by the Treasurer who also doubles as secretary as the secretary is a token woman.
The Chairman had use of my land up until this year that I found he was abusing this privilege and and asked him to no longer trespass my property. This angered him and he fancies himself a real bully, He waited until myself and one of the board members parked my RV for the year and "UPDATED THE BY LAWS" , a term I have never heard in 45 years.
He attempted to not acknowledge my exemption and include me in the HOA and put restrictions that caused me to remove my RV and now sell my property.
Attempting to find an Southern attorney for a person from Wisconsin proved to be a daunting task. I retained an attorney here and the attorney they hired down there is very aware that a Wisconsin attorney can ask for information but told her I was wasting her time and my money.
They were to have a board meeting in October and we were told by the Treasurer that meetings of those minutes would be distributed in January when he payed the bills. The Chairman was in Wyoming and do not see how a meeting was held but told this was common practice. I asked that a letter be read regarding my exemption and include in the minutes of the meeting. I wanted to do this for years but each board Chairman and board assured me that my building and usage was in place way before an HOA was formed and no need.
I have the drawing, the time frame, an signed, notarized affidavit am getting nowhere.
I am a combat decorated Veteran with Disabled Citizen Classification. This an a dollar gets me a cup of coffee at the gas station..
Any suggestions???
Thanks, Lee Rigby