SueK2 (California)
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Posts: 10
Posted:
at the monthly meeting it was a big fight. they had a meeting after that but did not inform anyone of the meeting. Can they do that? I plan to write a letter asking for the minutes.
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MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Posted:
Well you can ask for the minutes but don't expect them right away. They usually have to be ratified at the next meeting.
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NigelB (Texas)
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Posted By SueK2 on 11/18/2018 8:59 AM
at the monthly meeting it was a big fight. they had a meeting after that but did not inform anyone of the meeting. Can they do that? I plan to write a letter asking for the minutes.
at the monthly meeting it was a big fight. they had a meeting after that but did not inform anyone of the meeting. Can they do that? I plan to write a letter asking for the minutes.
Probably not - but it is entirely dependent on the statutes of the State the HOA is in. In Texas there has to be at least a 72 hour notification requirement
KerryL1 (California)
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Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Is "they" the board, Sue? Do you know the topic(s) of this sudden meeting?
In CA (maybe not in AL) they must produce draft minutes of any open meeting 30 days after the meeting. Owners don't get to review executive session minutes.
No, in CA they can't have another open meeting without 4 days notice for an open board mtg., or 2 days notice for executive session.
The president or two directors (usually) can, however, call an emergency meeting, but it has to be for a very serious unexpected matter.
Do you have a property manager you can ask?
In CA (maybe not in AL) they must produce draft minutes of any open meeting 30 days after the meeting. Owners don't get to review executive session minutes.
No, in CA they can't have another open meeting without 4 days notice for an open board mtg., or 2 days notice for executive session.
The president or two directors (usually) can, however, call an emergency meeting, but it has to be for a very serious unexpected matter.
Do you have a property manager you can ask?
RoyalP
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Posts: 1,104
Posted:
Perhaps, because of a 'public disruption', they merely adjourned the meeting into a private setting.
? technically improper ?
yes
? alternatives ?
sergeant at arms (? armed or unarmed ?)
private security officer
LE for hire
RECEIVERSHIP
or
(my way)
bang the gavel and recess 10 minutes
return, clear the 'hall' of any remaining 'disrupters', calling LE with a trespass complaint (they have no further 'right' to attend after being ordered to leave)
adjourn to a later date
rent outside hall and reconvene a properly noticed meeting
raise assessments to cover the new need to hire a hall
do WHATEVER it takes to maintain order
RECEIVERSHIP if order can not be established
? technically improper ?
yes
? alternatives ?
sergeant at arms (? armed or unarmed ?)
private security officer
LE for hire
RECEIVERSHIP
or
(my way)
bang the gavel and recess 10 minutes
return, clear the 'hall' of any remaining 'disrupters', calling LE with a trespass complaint (they have no further 'right' to attend after being ordered to leave)
adjourn to a later date
rent outside hall and reconvene a properly noticed meeting
raise assessments to cover the new need to hire a hall
do WHATEVER it takes to maintain order
RECEIVERSHIP if order can not be established
SueK2 (California)
Posts: 10
Posts: 10
Posted:
I am in California. I think we should get a manager. We sure don't want lawyers involved. I was on the board 2 1\2 years ago but I had a stroke and it took 6 months to walk again. One neighbor said she caused it but, that is funny because I had really high blood pressure.
4 years ago I moved here and the first meeting I went to, they voted the board out. The woman who was treasurer had a big chip on her shoulder. every meeting she would come and complain about everything and she wrote 3 page letters insulting all of us who were on the board. She would complain about things that happened years ago. She did her bookkeeping with a pencil and paper. That's fine but she argued about quickbooks. She wrote a long letter almost every month for years. The president at that time finally had enough and moved. So when it came time to elect a new president the witch was the only one who was running. So she was the new president. We live in a 55+ community and several people passed away and new people moved in. One guy she put on the board had a key to the stuff that controls our spa. We asked at the last meeting if the spa could be put on the timer so we didn't have to call to get it heated up. They asked her what if she or this other guy were not at home. She said then you just can't go. She changed the lock on the back gate and will not give anyone the key. Then she put a lock on the room that has the tables. We are to call her if we want in. She is a nut case. I have trouble explaining things but, Thanks for letting me vent!
Could we hire a manager if we started a petition and had enough signatures. Our hoa only has 25 houses.
4 years ago I moved here and the first meeting I went to, they voted the board out. The woman who was treasurer had a big chip on her shoulder. every meeting she would come and complain about everything and she wrote 3 page letters insulting all of us who were on the board. She would complain about things that happened years ago. She did her bookkeeping with a pencil and paper. That's fine but she argued about quickbooks. She wrote a long letter almost every month for years. The president at that time finally had enough and moved. So when it came time to elect a new president the witch was the only one who was running. So she was the new president. We live in a 55+ community and several people passed away and new people moved in. One guy she put on the board had a key to the stuff that controls our spa. We asked at the last meeting if the spa could be put on the timer so we didn't have to call to get it heated up. They asked her what if she or this other guy were not at home. She said then you just can't go. She changed the lock on the back gate and will not give anyone the key. Then she put a lock on the room that has the tables. We are to call her if we want in. She is a nut case. I have trouble explaining things but, Thanks for letting me vent!
Could we hire a manager if we started a petition and had enough signatures. Our hoa only has 25 houses.
GenoS (Florida)
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Posted By SueK2 on 11/18/2018 11:09 AM
So when it came time to elect a new president the witch was the only one who was running. So she was the new president.
So when it came time to elect a new president the witch was the only one who was running. So she was the new president.
I think I see your problem. Or at least a big part of it.
KerryL1 (California)
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Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Good point, Royal. Maybe the meeting was simply adjourned to another location because the attendees to out of hand. this is one way to handle such disruption. Still, draft minutes of it must be available to owners 30 days after that adjourned meeting.
The Board doesn't have to hire a property mgr. Sounds like a bad situation, SueK.
The Board doesn't have to hire a property mgr. Sounds like a bad situation, SueK.
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