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BrandieJ (Idaho)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Hello,

We recently held our annual membership meeting at which a quorum was present. At this meeting, 3/5 current board members opted to run for another term and two did not. Our meeting was held August 2. In the past, new board members took their seats at varying times following the annual meeting which had been held the first week of October. At times, new board members came on and were appointed to their officer positions prior to the end of the calendar year and other times, they did not start until Jan 1 of the New Year.

This year a board meeting was called five days after the annual meeting. Both the two outgoing board members and the two incoming board members were invited to the board meeting. The two incoming board members attended but the two outgoing did not attend. At this meeting the three directors remaining on for another term and essentially the present, acting board members ran through an agenda of items, including the nominations and appointments for the officer positions. Minutes were taken and later approved by the newly elected board. The HOA president was present at this meeting and made no objections to the newly elected board taking effect immediately rather than waiting until the new year. In fact, at the end of the August 2 annual meeting, a discussion with the three remaining board members, the two incoming board members and the property manager was had that the newly elected board members would start immediately following the annual meeting as this is standard protocol with most HOAs and our property manager wanted to have our association ran like it should be.

Our bylaws state a quorum of the board is a simple majority which would have been met with 3/5 (60%) acting board present at the table. These quorum requirements are also supported by state statutes as well. Our bylaws are silent with regards to when a newly elected board member takes their seat, but state statue reads as follows.... "despite the expiration of a director's term, the director continues to serve until the director's successor is elected, designated or appointed, and qualifies, or until there is a decrease in the number of the directors" It is my understanding that when bylaws are silent we are to refer to state statues? Not only did a quorum of the board of directors meet, nominate and appoint individual directors to officer positions, there were no objections that the two new directors would take their posts immediately as they both were involved in voting at this board meeting and on the record in the minutes taken at it.

Over the course of the next month, the newly elected board conducted business, reviewed and voted on an architectural review application which it denied. When the letter of denial was sent to the applicants, the two outgoing board members came forward to contest being replaced by a majority of the acting board and now claim they are still on the board until the years end. Has anyone else had anything like this occur? It seems to me that the acting board, with a majority present, legally elected and affirmed the new board effective immediately?

Any insight would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!

DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
I've never heard of newly elected directors waiting for months to take their positions.

At our annual meetings the new directors take their place at the table and the outgoing directors go sit in the audience right after the tally is counted and announced. Sometimes a board meeting will immediately follow the members meeting to elect officers, sometimes they just wait until the next regularly scheduled meeting (usually the latter when no turnover happens).

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
BrandieJ (Idaho)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you for your reply! For years, our association had an apathetic membership as the past president was more like a dictator. Annual meetings never saw quorums achieved, yet business was conducted and boards sat for several years in upwards of 5+ years. I believe the two outgoing board members, both of which did not attend the annual meeting, nor attended the first board meeting following the annual membership assembly yet now are clawing to have their "rightful place at the helm until 12/31/18" I feel this is a power play and an attempt to control the ACC outcome for their "friend" I have this question out to legal counsel now, but wanted to see what others thought of the dilemma. I've let all parties know in no uncertain terms that based on our bylaws and state statute that the current sitting board includes the two newly elected directors from the annual meeting and that the two outgoing have officially been relieved of their posts yet they remain adamant this is not the case.
BrandieJ (Idaho)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Just to add, our bylaws read as follow.

SECTION 7: DIRECTORS:

Powers.
The business and affairs of the Association shall be managed by a Board of Directors.

Number of Board Members.
The Board of Directors of the Association shall be no less than three (3) and no more than (7).

Qualifications.
The Board of Directors shall be elected by the Membership at the annual meeting, and unless otherwise provided in the Declaration of herein, a board member must be a Lot Owner. In the case of a corporate Owner or a partnership Owner, any representative of a corporation or partnership Owner may serve on the Board.

Salaries.
Unless authorized by vote of the Membership entitled to vote thereon, the Board of Directors of the Association shall not be entitled to any salary for their services. Board Members may be entitled to reimbursement for expenditures authorized and incurred on behalf of the Association upon approval by the Board. ·

Regular Meetings.
A regular meeting of the Board of Directors shall be held without notice following the annual meeting of Members, and/or at such other times and places as the Board may agree.
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Special Meetings.
Special meetings of the Board may be called by any Board member or any officer of the Association.

Notice.
Unless action is taken by consent, under §30-3-49 Idaho Code, notice of any special meeting of the Board of Directors must be at least ten (10) days prior to the meeting and specify the time and place of the meeting. Notice of a special meeting may be given in writing or may be oral.

Quorum.
A quorum of any meeting of the Board shall be a majority of the Board members. Board Members may fully participate in any regular or special board meeting by telephonic conference or other technology permitting the contemporaneous mutual transmission of the proceedings.

Vacancies.
Any vacancies occurring in the Board may be filled by the affirmative majority vote of the remaining Board. A director elected to fill a vacancy shall be elected for the remaining term of his or her predecessor in office.

Limitation on Liability.
The Directors of the Association are not personally liable to the Association or its Members for monetary damages for breach of fiduciary duty as a director, except:

for a breach of director's duty of loyalty to the Association or its Members;
for acts or omissions that constitute willful misconduct, recklessness, or knowing violation of law;
for violation of §30-3-80 through §30-3-83 of Idaho Code, and lawful amendments thereto;
for a transaction from which a director devises any improper personal benefit.

SECTION 8: OFFICERS:

Number of Officers.
The officers of the Association shall be President, Vice-President, Secretary, Treasurer, 3 Area Representatives and such other offices as the Board shall determine. Any person may hold more than one office at any time, provided that no person shall serve simultaneously as either President or Vice-President and Secretary or Treasurer. The board may also appoint such additional Vice­ Presidents, Assistant Secretaries and Treasurers and Committee Chairs as the Board may deem appropriate.

Election.
The officers shall be elected annually by the Board.

Removal.
Any officer or agent or person elected or appointed by the Board may be removed by the Board.

Vacancies.
All vacancies in any office or position may be filled by the Board.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
IMO, you are right, Brandie and your citation of state code is apt. Your new board di the right thing.

Your election of directors was the same as about any I've ever heard of. And like Douglas', we too leave the table once we're not reelected or didn't seek reelection and the new directors take those seats. Our HOA, and many other adjourn the Annual Meeting and convene an organizational meeting where the board elects its officers. In CA, this is alike any other board meeting and must be open to Owners.

I'd ask these two to show you in writing statute or in your docs why they think they serve till the end of the year.
GlenM4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 141
Posted:
i agree, our meeting would end with current board members, then we have 7 days to have a board meeting with the new directors. Which then we vote on officers. I would agree in asking where it says they serve till end of year.

MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Brandie,
Just because the old board did it wrong does not make it right. The new board is seated as soon as the Election is declared IMO.

It appears like they want to make some lame duck decisions which would not benefit your community. It kind of reminds me of when people in power pardon criminals and friends of friends the day before they leave office.

Sounds like your board and PM will get your HOA running the right way soon.
BrandieJ (Idaho)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I very much appreciate everyone who has taken the time thus far to respond. I firmly agree that the newly elected board members are in place and just need to ensure that the 2 outgoing board members along with 2 others who will remain for this term are not allowed to conduct any business on behalf of the association as it would be not only unjust but illegal IMO. I have let all parties know, in writing of not only the bylaw language but also of the corporate nonprofit statue language that supports the newly elected board as the legal board and also cc'd the associations legal counsel as well. Does anyone have any other recommendations to get these rouge individuals to see reason and ensure the proper board is at the helm of what I see as a very important decision for our community? I am very much afraid that they will attempt to push approval through for this ACC application that was denied by the true board that includes myself. I would think if they do, their decision would not be legal or binding?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Director your HOA attorney ASAP to write a letter as instructed by your board that these two must immediately cease and desist attempting to take any action on behalf of, in the name of, or whatever wording is best, of XXX HOA. Others here might know better wording.

Have it sent certified, return receipt requested.

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