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DouglasA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Hey all im hoping someone can help me clear up something from my CC&Rs.. the board is looking to make an increase and the language is not very clear to a simple IT guy like me.

The issue im told is the May VS Shall issue in the language, here is the original text

Thereafter, except as provided below, unless a greater increase is approved by a vote of two-thirds (2/3) of the votes of each class of Members represented in person or by proxy at a meeting of Members called for such purpose, the Maximum Annual Assessment for any fiscal year shall be equal to the Maximum Annual Assessment for the immediately preceding fiscal year increased at a rate equal to the greater of: (a) the percentage increase for the applicable fiscal year over the immediately preceding fiscal year in the Consumer Price Index -- All Urban Consumers -- All Items (1982-1984 Average = 100 Base) published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor (or its successor); or (b) ten percent (10%).

What our management company is suggesting is that this is saying every year out assessments go up, regardless of if the board elects to increase or not and the increase would be the CPI or 10% whichever is greater.

There argument is the word shall which means "must" or "obligated to" in legaleese.

Has anyone run into something like this? does there interpretation make sense?
GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Sounds like they may be misreading it ... I read it to say, in shorter form, that the Board can increase the assessment, but by no more than the greater of either the CPI they chose, or 10%.

There is nothing here that indicates intent to automatically increase the dues assessment each year.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
The maximum amount that assessments can be raised, don't have to, is 10%. By using open/closed years now throw the CPI out with the bath water.
PaaN
Posts: 219
Posted:
AGREE

..... Maximum Annual Assessment for any fiscal year shall be equal to the Maximum Annual Assessment for the immediately preceding fiscal year increased at a rate equal to the greater of: .....


as opposed to:

..... Annual Assessment for any fiscal year shall be equal to the Maximum Annual Assessment for the immediately preceding fiscal year increased at a rate equal to the greater of: .....


GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Perhaps the language was developed when the inflation rate was over 10% - not many of those years, but a couple ...
DouglasA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Quick update.. legal counsel stated

Your C,C, & R’s section 8.6 state “The Annual Assessments . . . shall not at any time exceed the Maximum Annual Assessment”. For the fiscal year 2000, the Maximum Annual Assessment shall be $28 per month. “Thereafter . . . the Maximum Annual Assessment . . . shall be equal be to the Maximum Annual Assessment for the immediately preceding fiscal year increased at a rate equal to the greater of: (a) the percentage increase . . . in the CPI . . .; or (b) ten percent.

The key word is shall. The Maximum Annual Assessment increases regardless of whether the Annual Assessments increase.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Doug,

The other point is that it can be higher then 10% providing the membership approves it (by a 2/3 majority).

Personally, I hate the CPI language for increases. Most people don't understand it and don't realize that the CPI is often based on data two years old. See: Consumer Price Index FAQ from the dept of labor
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Monthly Dues: $100.00
Annual Dues: $1200.00

Let me get this straight, the maximum allowable increase could be 10% or $10.00 per month or $120.00, but you don't have to implement that increase?
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
Richard, that's the way I read it. I have seen similar language in Texas HOA documents. The maximum increase without approval of the owners is some percentage, usually 10%, but there is no requirement to increase the assessment that much or at all.

We have had owners in client associations who urged their Boards to implement the 10% every year as they realized the Reserves were severely underfunded. Those arguments fell on deaf ears. Very frustrating in associations with builder/developer "teaser rate" assessments of less than $100.00 annually.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
I think we have this......

The maximum annual dues rate can only be raised, by percentage, in line with the CPI-U but not higher than 10% without duespayer approval.

My community has this identical clause in its covenants and by-laws. Your board controls dues increases.....and should always consider taking the CPI-U into consideration and raise dues in line w/ consumer inflation. Otherwise, your HOA slowly starves as the cost of solving problems only rises but your dues remains stunted in the face of inflation.
DouglasA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 6
Posted:
All thanks very much for the in depth knowledge and review.

Since our dues are $44/mon and the language as it stands is a "Shall" not a "May" or "Can" they believe we are allowed to go beyond 10% up to Arizona statute of 20%. the reasoning is that originally our dues were $28/mon and every year per the CC&Rs it would go up 10% or the CPI whichever is greater however the board as in our case does not have any obligation to impose the increase however the theoretical cap still goes up.

Math on the Ceiling:
10%
2000 $28.00
2001 $30.80
2002 $33.88
2003 $37.27
2004 $40.99
2005 $45.09
2006 $49.60
2007 $54.56
2008 $60.02
2009 $66.02
2010 $72.62
2011 $79.89
2012 $87.88
2013 $96.66
2014 $106.33
2015 $116.96
2016 $128.66
2017 $141.53
2018 $155.68
2019 $171.25

This being said if the Arizona statute was not in play the Board without the members could raise dues all the way to 171.25/month from 44/month for the fiscal 2019 year. Because Arizona has a statue governing a maximum raise of 20% the board could go as far as $52.80/mon without the members voting. At this point we have had 2 different Legal counsels review this and several people from our management company all saying the same thing..

i have to say legal mubo jumbo is really annoying!!!
PaaN
Posts: 219
Posted:
legal mumbo jumbo is MORE annoying

(as a plumber) once had an attorney customer answer my 'where is your hot water heater?' question with 'i do not have one' followed by 'however, my water heater is in the garage, why would i want to heat hot water?'.

occasionally i still chuckle
GlenM4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 141
Posted:
the Maximum Annual Assessment for any fiscal year shall be equal to the Maximum Annual Assessment for the immediately preceding fiscal year increased at a rate equal to the greater of:

This is just saying that if it was to be increased, the maximum it could (with out vote) is....

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