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MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
My questions is

Do any of you have either a CC&R or Rules and Regulation that allow the HOA to inspect a member's garage to see if it is in violation. Do you have a Rule and Regulation that requires an owner to have a functional garage for parking and how is it enforced?

Our association is a condo with row garages (not attached). The question arises because of misuse of parking spaces because members do not park their vehicles in their garage. We want to inspect a member's garage to make sure it is not just being used for only storage and un-functional to park a vehicle.

Have any of your association had a similar issues?

Michael Barto
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TimM11
Posts: 354
Posted:
We deal with that by focusing on the parking rather than the garage itself. Homeowners in our HOA may only park in their garages or in their unit's driveway (we're a townhouse-style condo) and can't use guest parking (which includes our street parking) without permission. Technically, yes, our rules say that homeowners can't use their garages to store boats, trailers, etc. But in practice, we don't act on that unless it results in a parking issue.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Michael

Do your Covenants say garages can only be used for vehicle parking as in must?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Oh boy... You should google the recent story about a HOA that made it mandatory to leave your garage door open during the day. That way the could "Inspect" for illegal residents living inside. Apparently an owner was using their garage space to rent out to people to live. A BIG No-No. Let's just say that idea went over like a box of rocks...

So what is your HOA going to do IF the person is in violation? Our HOA had a rule cars to be parked in garages. Didn't say what would happened if you violated that rule. We did not fine.

Former HOA President
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I think inspecting garages is out of line. It's like forcing someone to prove that he's innocent. Now if someone were to stroll by a garage when it happens to be open and someone snaps a photo of the garage filled with junk, then you could take action.

I'd like to agree with the comment that you should focus on your parking restrictions, but that may or may not produce enough results. Our community had a restriction saying that the parking pads are for guests only and on street parking is prohibited; residents must use their garages or driveways. Enforcing this was almost impossible, though, and the benefit didn't justify the amount of time and effort needed to obtain that benefit. We ended up amending the declaration to make the parking pads open to all.

I will note that if parking is limited and someone is hogging space because of a garage full of junk, the neighbors will have an incentive to report the violation and help you get the necessary evidence.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
I manage a complex with very limited onsite parking. 97 units with 32 parking space. Each has a two car garage. The city mandates that 8 spaces be set aside for those that need extra space.

So, the association has a parking application. In order to reserve one of the eight spaces with a third car, the association requires that all vehicles must be registered with the unit apply for the space. All licenses must also have the unit's address. In order to get a reserved space, the association does a inspection. The garage MUST be cleared to allow two vehicles. No work trucks can occupy the reserved space. There is also a monthly rental for the space.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Are these garages exclusive use common area? Common area?
MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
Common Area Exclusive Use? That I am not sure. Certainly the outside balconies are Common Area Exclusive Use as the HOA maintains them. But members can add dry wall and other things in their garages without Architectural requests. Garages share a common power system, so we will not let them charge their electric cars (which is another issue). Right now to me, I think they are not Common Area Exclusive Use since we perform no maintenance to them.

Michael Barto
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JaredC (Texas)
Posts: 264
Posted:
We are a townhome HOA with a similar parking arrangement. For the longest time people were convinced they owned their parking spaces and that myth was promoted by some truly bad homeowners but it persisted nevertheless.

Anyway we have deeds to our homes and those deeds do not include parking spaces which means all parking spaces are, in fact, common area exclusive use spaces and the HOA has every right to set reasonable rules and regulations governing their use. No trailers, derelict vehicles, etc.
PaaN
Posts: 219
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MichaelB32 on 08/31/2018 12:19 AM
Common Area Exclusive Use? That I am not sure. Certainly the outside balconies are Common Area Exclusive Use as the HOA maintains them. But members can add dry wall and other things in their garages without Architectural requests. Garages share a common power system, so we will not let them charge their electric cars (which is another issue). Right now to me, I think they are not Common Area Exclusive Use since we perform no maintenance to them.

STOP THINKING

? What does your DEED say is yours fee simple ?

? What does the Declaration say ?

Even money bet: The Members should NOT be structurally modifying an exclusive use common element subject to association limits on use AND the Association IS responsible for 'most', if not all, of said element's maintenance.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Your documents, probably your CC&Rs, Michael, will tell you if they're exclusive use common areas. If they are, your HOA may have certain rights.

Our condo parking spaces in our underground garage are exclusive use common areas, they are deeded to owners, the HOA has rules about them, and the HOA maintains them.

Our storage lockers in large rooms in the garage are deeded to individuals, are exclusive use common areas, the HOA has rules about them, but only maintains the gate to each.

(It sounds to me, Jared, that your parking spaces are just common areas, not exclusive use common areas.)
JaredC (Texas)
Posts: 264
Posted:
KerryL1: Yes the parking area is all common area however our CC&R's specifically state that all homeowners will be granted one permanent covered parking space as close to their unit as reasonably possible. This makes some of those spaces exclusive use while all others are awarded via an annual lottery system. It sucks having 24 units and only 41 parking spaces. :-(

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