SteveS8 (New York)
Posts: 128
Posts: 128
Posted:
This is a bit long, and I apologize, but it begs for an answer as to whether an HOA board has the right to bar residents from entering other buildings in the condo and investigating and photographing problems in the common areas for the purpose of informing the rest of the community of these issues.
I happen to run a blog in our community of just under 800 homes and have done so for 10 years. The blog is not sanctioned by the HOA.
With the help of residents, the blog points out issues in need of attention and pictures are posted daily of issues like trash bins left open, alarm boxes showing trouble, packages mis-delivered, garage leaks, mold issues, bug infestations, etc.
I occasionally enter condo buildings when I see a problem with the alarm or packages left where they do not belong or when I receive a call or email from a resident asking me to check something or other. In 10 years I have never received a complaint from the board or any resident suggesting I should cease what I was doing.
The board is not enamored of the blog because they would rather it look as if everything is just right in the community, but we have persevered over the years and most of the residents in the community read the blog on a regular basis and many contribute.
At the July HOA meeting, it appears as if the board decided to try to do something about the blog. They made the following motion which was passed 5 to 0 with 1 abstention...
In order to protect the privacy of all suite residents, a rule to bar residents from entering other buildings to inspect or photograph except if invited or in emergency situations was proposed to the Board:
βNo person, other than residents of a suite building, guests of a suite building resident, repair persons, or persons authorized by either the HOA or Board of Managers of that Condominium shall enter upon, inspect, or take photographs of the interiors of said suite building, except in the case of an emergency. Nor shall any person enter on to non-common areas outside the suite buildings without the express permission of Management or the HOA or the respective Board of Managers for the area. Violations shall be subject to a $50 fine for the first offense, $100 for the second offense and each offense thereafter as well as suspension of clubhouse privileges for a period of thirty days for each subsequent offense. Any decision of the Board or Board of Managers of the respective Condominiums may be grieved pursuant to Grievance Procedures currently in effect.β
After reading that, I went on the blog to notify the community of this new ruling and asked if residents in the 37 condo buildings would invite me into their buildings to do what I had always done. Within a week or two residents from 34 of the 37 condo buildings invited me in, and I was following up with the remaining three so I could go back to doing what I had always done.
However, things changed a month later at the August HOA meeting. Now they decided they were going to amend the new rule, and this adjustment was approved by the same 5 to 0 with 1 abstention vote.
Here is the new, amended ruling...
Amended Resolution to bar residents from entering other buildings to inspect or photograph, approved by Board:
"NO NON-RESIDENT OF A SUITE BUILDING EXCEPT AUTHORIZED CONTRACTORS, VENDORS, OR MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEES OR MEMBERS OF THE HOA BOARD OR BOARD OF MANAGERS SHALL ENTER UPON ANY SUITE BUILDING FOR THE PURPOSE OF INSPECTING OR PHOTOGRAPHING THE INTERIORS OF SAID BUILDING. VIOLATORS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO A $50 DOLLAR FINE FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE AND 100 DOLLAR FINE FOR EACH SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE."
Now you will note suddenly guests of building residents are no longer permitted in the buildings, and even the words "except in the case of an emergency" were taken out so should I see a problem with the alarm or I get a call that the garage is leaking or someone is experiencing an infestation of ants or growing mild, I am, according to this ruling, not allowed to enter any building but my own.
Residents responded in very angry fashion on the blog to this new rule, and one even asked if it is legal for the board to do this.
I figured the best place to ask was right here. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Steve S.
New York
I happen to run a blog in our community of just under 800 homes and have done so for 10 years. The blog is not sanctioned by the HOA.
With the help of residents, the blog points out issues in need of attention and pictures are posted daily of issues like trash bins left open, alarm boxes showing trouble, packages mis-delivered, garage leaks, mold issues, bug infestations, etc.
I occasionally enter condo buildings when I see a problem with the alarm or packages left where they do not belong or when I receive a call or email from a resident asking me to check something or other. In 10 years I have never received a complaint from the board or any resident suggesting I should cease what I was doing.
The board is not enamored of the blog because they would rather it look as if everything is just right in the community, but we have persevered over the years and most of the residents in the community read the blog on a regular basis and many contribute.
At the July HOA meeting, it appears as if the board decided to try to do something about the blog. They made the following motion which was passed 5 to 0 with 1 abstention...
In order to protect the privacy of all suite residents, a rule to bar residents from entering other buildings to inspect or photograph except if invited or in emergency situations was proposed to the Board:
βNo person, other than residents of a suite building, guests of a suite building resident, repair persons, or persons authorized by either the HOA or Board of Managers of that Condominium shall enter upon, inspect, or take photographs of the interiors of said suite building, except in the case of an emergency. Nor shall any person enter on to non-common areas outside the suite buildings without the express permission of Management or the HOA or the respective Board of Managers for the area. Violations shall be subject to a $50 fine for the first offense, $100 for the second offense and each offense thereafter as well as suspension of clubhouse privileges for a period of thirty days for each subsequent offense. Any decision of the Board or Board of Managers of the respective Condominiums may be grieved pursuant to Grievance Procedures currently in effect.β
After reading that, I went on the blog to notify the community of this new ruling and asked if residents in the 37 condo buildings would invite me into their buildings to do what I had always done. Within a week or two residents from 34 of the 37 condo buildings invited me in, and I was following up with the remaining three so I could go back to doing what I had always done.
However, things changed a month later at the August HOA meeting. Now they decided they were going to amend the new rule, and this adjustment was approved by the same 5 to 0 with 1 abstention vote.
Here is the new, amended ruling...
Amended Resolution to bar residents from entering other buildings to inspect or photograph, approved by Board:
"NO NON-RESIDENT OF A SUITE BUILDING EXCEPT AUTHORIZED CONTRACTORS, VENDORS, OR MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEES OR MEMBERS OF THE HOA BOARD OR BOARD OF MANAGERS SHALL ENTER UPON ANY SUITE BUILDING FOR THE PURPOSE OF INSPECTING OR PHOTOGRAPHING THE INTERIORS OF SAID BUILDING. VIOLATORS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO A $50 DOLLAR FINE FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE AND 100 DOLLAR FINE FOR EACH SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE."
Now you will note suddenly guests of building residents are no longer permitted in the buildings, and even the words "except in the case of an emergency" were taken out so should I see a problem with the alarm or I get a call that the garage is leaking or someone is experiencing an infestation of ants or growing mild, I am, according to this ruling, not allowed to enter any building but my own.
Residents responded in very angry fashion on the blog to this new rule, and one even asked if it is legal for the board to do this.
I figured the best place to ask was right here. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Steve S.
New York