LaskaS (Texas)
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Posts: 1,025
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Hello, I am an owner in a condominium community that was basically destroyed by hurricane harvey.
126 unit owners lost everything and have been displaced.
The chaos and ensuing cleanup and lack of communication resulted in a removal of the previous board and board president.
the new temporary board was elected.
upon being elected on this new board, i quickly realized that i was the only board member that was actually a resident owners.
our bylaws don't require residency to be a board member. But obviously, being the only resident board member, I was going to have different opinions from the board members who were owners and rented their units out.
Noone on the board had any previous board experience( i know i know, its bad and gets worse)
There were no proper procedures or procedures at all followed.
for the first three months the board was trying to fill out fema applicatoins,, and figure out how to start the rebuild process.( we had no flood coverage as we are outside of the flood zone)
I quickly realized the other board members had no interest in rebuilding, They preferred to have a developer buy out the entire property , so they could just get their money and move on.
However, our bylaws and declaration are pre 1994 texas.. thus, it takes 100% owner approval to agree to sell. so the rest of the board begrudgingly started planning for rebuild.
When i continued to voice objections to the board wanting to present the owners with the worst possible rebuild options. I immediately became enemy number one. Long story short, after meeting after meeting insisting the board needed to present a fair and accurate estimate of what is necessary for rebuild.. I resigned.
ok.. much more has gone on since then, a homeowners facebook page was creeated, but i was banned because of my consistent posts regarding the incompetence and illegality of what was going on. I was excluded from notice of meetings, and not until i contacted the attorney and management company did the board then start sending me notifications.
however.. here is where we are at now.. the new board is occupied being run by one person who i'm to sorry to say is completely incompetent and doesn't know a thing about contracting or rebuilding. She is hell bent on proving me wrong and saving face.
back in march the board at a homeowners meeting presented estimates and a prospective rebuild agenda..and clearly stated in writing also. the board has only signed on contract for project management and structural engineer. and the other contracts under consideration were
1. the rebuild of buildings(company b, who was among 5 companies that the board recieved bids from)
2. the clean up ,demo
3.. the mold certificate inspection..(despite several owners protesting that mold certificatoin was a joke, and common funds should not be used for individual owners having a mold certificate,, all units were already treated as prescribed by fema.. ,, also,, it was 6 months after flood before the board finallystarted anything,, yet, the warned owners that they couldn't start rebuilding unless the board approved it.. (obviously inaccurate, and obviouisly illegal, but again, you have displaced owners who just want to get back to their homes. and unfortunatly many are older and had the mistaken impression that they have to listen to the board, ( i and other owners repeatedly told owners the current board was misinforming them, and as long as they got the required permits and inspections, they could start their units:
They clearly stated sic "no other contracts will be signed until the board recieves 51 % approval of the rebuild plan , the same as required for a fema loan"
ok,, well, with no communication from the board, and no vote.. and no informatoin despite repeated requests.(remember, most of the downstairs owners where displaced and not living here)
the board then entered contracts for work that is clearly defined in our declaration as the responsibility of the owners themselves)despite objections from a few vocal involved owners,(for work that is clearly defined in our declaration as the responsibility of the owners themselves)
The board has not kept any minutes and despite several owners asking for months where are the minutes of the meetings where these decisions were made... the board simply says, we have been busy,, or we are still getting them together.... ITS NOW A YEAR LATER.
The board has spent 600,000 of our million dollars we had in the reserve..
the board unbelievably spent 400,000 dollars on foundation work...!.. despite several foundation companies, an engineer we hired to
come create a complete scope of work that was necessary, and the engineer of record for thisproperty for the last 30 years all saying,
the foundations (other than 2 buildings,,out of 24)were not in need of immediate repair,, The board president contacted some
engineer from out of down who is basically a professor and expert witness, and she hired him to create a complete independent
report of our buildings and property.
Well lo and behold.. his findings were all fine, but his interpretation and recommendations were extreme and made without having any starting data.. By the way, the engineer of record on our property who had overseen all bulding work had all the data, but the president of the board didn't want to work with him becasue she felt he was in thepocket of the previous board(ridiculous, i know)
He recommended 22 out of 26 buildings needed work..
ok. let me get back to the issue. the current board has already burned through 2/3 of our reserves and refuses to listen toi reason,, they are spending the money like its free money,, and they now have decided to assess the owners for another million dollars.!
We absolutely do not want to go to court, we already know that it is sueing ourselves, and our hoa attorney would like nothing better than to run up bills.
today we are getting ready to get the signatures required for a recall vote.. we've been through this once. so we know what it entails. luckily, we won't have to go through the delay of the board not accepting the petition and having to go to court.etc.. i have two board members that agreed, if we get 51% votes for recall, they will call a special meeting .the president or 2 board members can call a special meeting according to our documents, otherwise theowners have to get a petition to call as special meeting and the board has to accept it, and the lawyers try and refute it blah blah...
Here is my question... once we get the signatures for a recall vote,, once the two sympathetic board members call for the special meeting,, can the board continue to sign contracts and pass a special assessment despite knowing that the owners do not agree and are in the process of voting them out...???
sorry for the length..
please any possible angles you can think of that will help??? we already know we have to have a special meeting,, we don't want the board president to spend the next 3 weeks scorched earth,, signing contracts and agreements that are not required, and not necessary and will put the owners further behind.
126 unit owners lost everything and have been displaced.
The chaos and ensuing cleanup and lack of communication resulted in a removal of the previous board and board president.
the new temporary board was elected.
upon being elected on this new board, i quickly realized that i was the only board member that was actually a resident owners.
our bylaws don't require residency to be a board member. But obviously, being the only resident board member, I was going to have different opinions from the board members who were owners and rented their units out.
Noone on the board had any previous board experience( i know i know, its bad and gets worse)
There were no proper procedures or procedures at all followed.
for the first three months the board was trying to fill out fema applicatoins,, and figure out how to start the rebuild process.( we had no flood coverage as we are outside of the flood zone)
I quickly realized the other board members had no interest in rebuilding, They preferred to have a developer buy out the entire property , so they could just get their money and move on.
However, our bylaws and declaration are pre 1994 texas.. thus, it takes 100% owner approval to agree to sell. so the rest of the board begrudgingly started planning for rebuild.
When i continued to voice objections to the board wanting to present the owners with the worst possible rebuild options. I immediately became enemy number one. Long story short, after meeting after meeting insisting the board needed to present a fair and accurate estimate of what is necessary for rebuild.. I resigned.
ok.. much more has gone on since then, a homeowners facebook page was creeated, but i was banned because of my consistent posts regarding the incompetence and illegality of what was going on. I was excluded from notice of meetings, and not until i contacted the attorney and management company did the board then start sending me notifications.
however.. here is where we are at now.. the new board is occupied being run by one person who i'm to sorry to say is completely incompetent and doesn't know a thing about contracting or rebuilding. She is hell bent on proving me wrong and saving face.
back in march the board at a homeowners meeting presented estimates and a prospective rebuild agenda..and clearly stated in writing also. the board has only signed on contract for project management and structural engineer. and the other contracts under consideration were
1. the rebuild of buildings(company b, who was among 5 companies that the board recieved bids from)
2. the clean up ,demo
3.. the mold certificate inspection..(despite several owners protesting that mold certificatoin was a joke, and common funds should not be used for individual owners having a mold certificate,, all units were already treated as prescribed by fema.. ,, also,, it was 6 months after flood before the board finallystarted anything,, yet, the warned owners that they couldn't start rebuilding unless the board approved it.. (obviously inaccurate, and obviouisly illegal, but again, you have displaced owners who just want to get back to their homes. and unfortunatly many are older and had the mistaken impression that they have to listen to the board, ( i and other owners repeatedly told owners the current board was misinforming them, and as long as they got the required permits and inspections, they could start their units:
They clearly stated sic "no other contracts will be signed until the board recieves 51 % approval of the rebuild plan , the same as required for a fema loan"
ok,, well, with no communication from the board, and no vote.. and no informatoin despite repeated requests.(remember, most of the downstairs owners where displaced and not living here)
the board then entered contracts for work that is clearly defined in our declaration as the responsibility of the owners themselves)despite objections from a few vocal involved owners,(for work that is clearly defined in our declaration as the responsibility of the owners themselves)
The board has not kept any minutes and despite several owners asking for months where are the minutes of the meetings where these decisions were made... the board simply says, we have been busy,, or we are still getting them together.... ITS NOW A YEAR LATER.
The board has spent 600,000 of our million dollars we had in the reserve..
the board unbelievably spent 400,000 dollars on foundation work...!.. despite several foundation companies, an engineer we hired to
come create a complete scope of work that was necessary, and the engineer of record for thisproperty for the last 30 years all saying,
the foundations (other than 2 buildings,,out of 24)were not in need of immediate repair,, The board president contacted some
engineer from out of down who is basically a professor and expert witness, and she hired him to create a complete independent
report of our buildings and property.
Well lo and behold.. his findings were all fine, but his interpretation and recommendations were extreme and made without having any starting data.. By the way, the engineer of record on our property who had overseen all bulding work had all the data, but the president of the board didn't want to work with him becasue she felt he was in thepocket of the previous board(ridiculous, i know)
He recommended 22 out of 26 buildings needed work..
ok. let me get back to the issue. the current board has already burned through 2/3 of our reserves and refuses to listen toi reason,, they are spending the money like its free money,, and they now have decided to assess the owners for another million dollars.!
We absolutely do not want to go to court, we already know that it is sueing ourselves, and our hoa attorney would like nothing better than to run up bills.
today we are getting ready to get the signatures required for a recall vote.. we've been through this once. so we know what it entails. luckily, we won't have to go through the delay of the board not accepting the petition and having to go to court.etc.. i have two board members that agreed, if we get 51% votes for recall, they will call a special meeting .the president or 2 board members can call a special meeting according to our documents, otherwise theowners have to get a petition to call as special meeting and the board has to accept it, and the lawyers try and refute it blah blah...
Here is my question... once we get the signatures for a recall vote,, once the two sympathetic board members call for the special meeting,, can the board continue to sign contracts and pass a special assessment despite knowing that the owners do not agree and are in the process of voting them out...???
sorry for the length..
please any possible angles you can think of that will help??? we already know we have to have a special meeting,, we don't want the board president to spend the next 3 weeks scorched earth,, signing contracts and agreements that are not required, and not necessary and will put the owners further behind.