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DennisR9 (Tennessee)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Hi all. New member here. I have been asked by the Board to create a database to track work orders for the HOA. We are a small HOA - 66 units.

Although retired for 10+ years, I do have previous experience with dBase and MS-Access databases. But, it's not like riding a bicycle - I have forgotten quite a bit over the years. Please help.

How does your HOA track/manage work orders? Is there a freeware program available, or have you created your own? I would prefer to use LibreOffice Base as this is open-source and can easily be used by subsequent boards without the expense of buying MS-Access.

Thanks for your help.

Dennis

OwenS (Tennessee)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Duplicate paper forms work best until purchase orders are necessary for third party contracts. Request for work should be divided by office personnel into two types: maintenance and HOA responsible repairs. Maintenance personnel should complete the estimate of repairs they can perform, inform office management of repairs they cannot perform (for outside contractors), and scheduled maintenance. When third party contractors are retained, a purchase orders should be issued. At this point, the POs should be entered into your general ledger accounting system to track liabilities.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
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Posted By OwenS on 08/05/2018 11:51 AM
Duplicate paper forms work best until purchase orders are necessary for third party contracts. Request for work should be divided by office personnel into two types: maintenance and HOA responsible repairs. Maintenance personnel should complete the estimate of repairs they can perform, inform office management of repairs they cannot perform (for outside contractors), and scheduled maintenance. When third party contractors are retained, a purchase orders should be issued. At this point, the POs should be entered into your general ledger accounting system to track liabilities.

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DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
Personally unless the number of work orders was large, or you just relish the chance to develop an application as a mental exercise, I would track them in a spreadsheet.

Another option would be to look at opensource freeware solutions. I see a few on Sourceforge.net, search for "Work Order", including the double quotes.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Hi, Dennis. Welcome to the forum. My HOA uses paper maintenance request forms; they're white with yellow "carbon copy" second pages.

I wanted to implement something more modern that would allow us to track the requests and in general provide for more accountability than the current process. I played around with a few designs. I ultimately decided I didn't want to be the IT guy volunteering multiple hours a week to keep it running and maintained. The big reveal for me was about 6 months ago when I set up our clubhouse Windows computer so that one of our board members could attend meetings via Skype. It was easy to set up and it works fine. Every board meeting, they wait for me to show up, turn it on, start Skype and place the call to "Joe" in New Jersey. If I didn't do that, they wouldn't use it. They don't know and, more importantly, they don't want to know how to use it.

If you do anything, please consider a demo system first that shows what it would look like and how it would be used. Your board now might want something like you've described today. Next year's board might feel differently.

I'd consider adapting an existing "issue tracking" system, many of which are open source and don't cost anything to use. Check out this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems

A lot of those may be overkill. Note that none of them use MS Access or dBase

My preference would be Trac. It has 14 years of development behind it. Of course, all that depends on how much time you're willing to spend designing, implementing, and documenting the system. It can be simple enough that people wouldn't need a whole lot of training to use it. The main concerns would be maintaining it and keeping it running in those inevitable crises where a storage drive (disk or SSD) goes bad and the database needs to be restored from a backup. And oh yes, setting up a procedure by which the database is backed up on a regular basis haha.)

Good luck to you.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Almost forgot... LibreOffice Base is the weakest link in the othwewise excellent LibreOffice Suite. From one description, "Work is ongoing to transition the embedded storage engine from HSQLDB to the C++ based Firebird SQL backend." I've been using SQL for 30 years. I wouldn't want to touch this product with a 10 foot pole. The LibreOffice folks have been trying to get their database offering "right" for quite some time now.
DennisR9 (Tennessee)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thanks for all the replies.

I guess I should have been more in depth in my original post but I didn't want to ramble on. We are a small, self-managed HOA. We currently use QuickBooks for HOA accounting and can easily get reports for maintenance expenses. We've tried 2 different management companies in the past and their service was horrible. Additionally, we are a residential community - not a condominium community - more like a PUD community - but not officially a PUD. So some maintenance items are the HOA's responsibility, and some are not. It's really confusing to most.

Over the last 20 years we have gone from having someone processing maintenance requests by keeping up with them in their head, to having them keeping a handwritten log and providing the board with a copy of that log at each board meeting, to using a three-part work order form, to now a spreadsheet that i set-up for the designated person to record and track work orders. In previous years there were always a handful of residents that complained about submitting a request (sometimes several times) and never receiving a response. Same stuff I'm sure other HOA's have encountered.

I have searched the web extensively over the past several weeks for a free or inexpensive program to manage work orders and I have not found any that are simple enough for most anyone to use. The free ones are not quite what we need and the payware ones are too expensive and too complicated. I will look more into "issues tracking" software.

I agree that LibreOffice Base is a lame excuse for a database program. I just wanted to keep it simple and inexpensive for future boards to use. Using a simple switchboard menu for the user to add and print work orders, update work orders, and easily provide status reports to the board. Additionally the table should provide a unique/sequential work order number to prevent subsequent users form making up their own WO numbers.

I don't want to overthink the issue. I just want to make it simple..

Thanks again for all your help.

Dennis

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Dennis,

It's great that you know databases. However, what is chosen to be used by the Association should be based on who might serve after you.

Case in point, we had an Architectural chair who knew databases. They took the time to input data, create GUIs and have everything together electronically. When they left, those who served after had no idea what they were looking at. 10 years later, I served on the Architectural committee and discovered the CD with the data. I knew what it was but it was 10 years out of date. Our committee chose to stick with paper and pen. Therefore, we took a year to fully organize the files and establish procedures to keep them organized.

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