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SusanB26 (Florida)
Posts: 12
Posted:
I served for two 3 year terms as Secretary of my HOA board of directors until my last term expired at the end of 2016. There was a recall of the remaining board members this year for supposed financial irregularities which I am sure did not occur; however, the majority of homeowners apparently believed the door-to-door recall campaign and the remaining board members I served with until the end of 2016 were all replaced at the beginning of 2018.

I just received a letter that I have been scheduled for a private, IN CAMERA interview with the new Association's board of directors and their general counsel to discuss the financial decisions made on certain expenditures and to give me an opportunity to defend some questionable financial and procedural improprieties that they say occurred during my service on the board.

I have refused to participate as I will be out of town. However, I do not see the new board giving up in implicating me.

My question is what authority does the new board have to require me to answer questions for which I may not have a recollection of and wouldn't the new board need to inform me of specific allegations they have have as far as perceived financial irregularities?
JenniferG11 (Texas)
Posts: 667
Posted:
Aren't you indemnified? The insurance should provide you with an attorney? Even though it isn't court, I wouldn't go do that interview w/o one.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
Jennifer makes a good point, if you are being accused of wrongdoing as a director, you should contact the association's D&O insurance carrier. I assume it would be the carrier from when you were on the board if has changed since then. If the carrier requires a lawsuit to be filed before they will step in, that would make things trickier.

Under no circumstance would I consent the interview they have requested without an attorney on my side. Since I would rather not spend the money required, I would probably respond that I would not do a live interview, but would consider responding in written form to written questions about my service to the association.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
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Posted By SusanB26 on 08/04/2018 5:58 PM

My question is what authority does the new board have to require me to answer questions for which I may not have a recollection of and wouldn't the new board need to inform me of specific allegations they have have as far as perceived financial irregularities?

A few more thoughts:
1) shy of suing you, I don't see that they have any authority to compel you to answer questions.
2) this sounds more like an interrogation than an interview.
3) if you do decide to participate in an "interview" without legal representation, I would at least insist on a) a witness (or two) of my own be present, b) record your own video of the meeting, c) require the questions to be provided in advance. If the questions are accusatory in nature, do not participate.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JenniferG11 (Texas)
Posts: 667
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DouglasK1 on 08/04/2018 9:00 PM
Posted By SusanB26 on 08/04/2018 5:58 PM

My question is what authority does the new board have to require me to answer questions for which I may not have a recollection of and wouldn't the new board need to inform me of specific allegations they have have as far as perceived financial irregularities?


A few more thoughts:
1) shy of suing you, I don't see that they have any authority to compel you to answer questions.
2) this sounds more like an interrogation than an interview.
3) if you do decide to participate in an "interview" without legal representation, I would at least insist on a) a witness (or two) of my own be present, b) record your own video of the meeting, c) require the questions to be provided in advance. If the questions are accusatory in nature, do not participate.

I agree with most of this, except I am more hard line that in no way would I consider answering anything in these circumstances w/o an attorney representing you, period, since it is accusatory in nature, and their attorney will be there. As a former board member, this should be provided by insurance.

PainintheA
Posts: 77
Posted:
SusanB26,

ATTORNEY - yesterday

Inform him/her that you 'should' be covered by the BOD's 'D & O' Insurance
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
-- Did you serve as both a director on the Board and the secretary of the board? Sometimes the Secretary's job is a separate appointment. The Secretary's job is an officer's position.

-- Chances are good that your HOA's governining documents and state statute require indemnification for both officers and directors. Do review your HOA's governing documents to confirm or reject this. It's probably in the Declaration (a.k.a. CC&Rs and similar).

-- One huge exception to the requirement for indemnification is "willful misconduct." E.g. bona fide criminal activity.

-- The HOA's general counsel is legally not on your side. The HOA's general counsel's client is "the HOA," which often means the current Board. Generally, the HOA attorney will do what the board tells him or her to do, all to ensure as many billable hours as possible. That may sound cynical but I feel I have seen this more than once.

-- The letter that was sent to you should have emphasized that you have a right to bring your own attorney. Such notification (that you have a right to bring your attorney) is part of the due process that courts expect of HOAs. If the letter does not say this, then this board is a bunch of clowns out to "get you." They may want to run a kangaroo court. They may use the video footage to unlawfully defame you.

-- I would inform the board to (1) provide you with the questions they wish to ask; and (2) the names and contact information of all insurers for the HOA. Sometimes there is more than one insurer. Like the others said, immediately call the insurers and ask that an attorney be assigned to you.

-- Unfortunately, it's pretty usual for HOA insurers to decline to assign an attorney until an actual lawsuit is filed in state court against a director or officer (or former director or officer). Meanwhile, the HOA board will use member funds to pay their HOA attorney. It costs the board members nothing. Incompetent board members can destroy a HOA by abusing their right to corporate counsel.

-- I would not give claims adjusters any information except. To any query the claims adjuster might have, I would repeated again and again, "Please assign me an attorney." From what I have seen with two HOAs, claims adjusters will try to bully and lie to people. They are not well-educated in the law. One of the first things one of these idiot claims adjusters will say, is: "Give me your personal insurer's contact info. We need to let them know a claim has been filed against you." Refuse to give this info. Repeat again, "Please assign me an attorney."

-- Based on what you say about the Recall campaign, this board may very well twist anything you say into a falsehood. I have seen it happen before. This board will destroy the chances of any of the past board members ever being elected again.

-- Unfortunately serious cases of embezzlement by HOA board members or HOA officers do occur and are pretty common. A new one seems to be reported at the news section of this site about once every few weeks. I can understand a board having concerns. But proceedings that amount to a kangaroo court will get a HOA in trouble. HOA Board members are volunteers not trained to handle serious legal situations in a manner that ensures due process. Instead, often HOA Board members like to think of themselves as being as important as, say, a state district court judge. Do not believe the latter for a minute. There is a good chance this "proceeding" is about HOA Directors' egos.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Don't forget that they are no longer on the board. Which may not allow the HOA's insurance to cover them now. However, it should cover the ex-board while they were in office.

If it were me, I'd tell them to go look at the records for your answers. They should have them. If not, then why aren't the records being kept with the HOA? Should been turned over when you left.

I went through a similar issue and had to go to court. Was subpoenaed for that one. So as long as this hasn't gone to court, and they have your records, then this sounds a bit like "Witch hunting".

Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By PainintheA on 08/05/2018 6:06 AM
SusanB26,

ATTORNEY - yesterday

Inform him/her that you 'should' be covered by the BOD's 'D & O' Insurance

Best advice yet.
SusanB26 (Florida)
Posts: 12
Posted:
I want to thank everyone who responded. I did consult a Florida lawyer and his opinion was that the new board was just posturing and the new board president wants blood; a fight, and a reaction. The lawyer's advice was to ignore their requests to meet as they have zero legal grounds and the letter was just a scare tactic. As far as due process, my due process is to ignore them.
SusanB26 (Florida)
Posts: 12
Posted:
I want to thank everyone who responded. I did consult a Florida lawyer and his opinion was that the new board was just posturing and the new board president wants blood; a fight, and a reaction. The lawyer's advice was to ignore their requests to meet as they have zero legal grounds and the letter was just a scare tactic. As far as due process, my due process is to ignore them.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Susan,

Thanks for sharing what your attorney advised.

Tim
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JenniferG11 on 08/04/2018 7:21 PM
Aren't you indemnified? The insurance should provide you with an attorney? Even though it isn't court, I wouldn't go do that interview w/o one.

Bingo.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
If the matter doesn't get resolved I suggest you review your D&O policies for the last few years. Most D&O policies are on a "claims made" basis, not an "occurrance" basis. That is, the insurance carrier who WAS covering the risk at the time of the alleged wrongdoing is NOT who would represent you. The carrier who's insuring the risk at the time a claim is made - meaning whichever company your D&O insurance is currently with - would handle the claim and provide you with a lawyer if needed.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Keep in mind that many (most) D&O policies do not cover board member v board member issues.

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