GeorgeS21 (Florida)
Posts: 3,808
Posts: 3,808
Posted:
Hi, again, All,
Recall my HOA, of which I am a Board member and Secretary, lost all records from just after the formation (1995) until 2015 - apparently, the President at the time died suddenly and his home was cleared/cleaned by relatives very quickly. Apparently, the Association had been operating under a set of Bylaws dated 1998 - the original Bylaws from the developer were dated 1995. There is no record of the original Bylaws being modified - the 1998 version, according to some of the original residents, "just appeared."
Neither the original Bylaws, nor the 1998 version are noteworthy in any way - differences in the number of Board members (3 with allowance to increase to 10 "from time to time" via a bylaws amendment vs 5-9), approval criteria of future Bylaws (by the Board vs by 3/5 of the community at an annual meeting), annual meetings in original and annual and quarterly meetings in the 1998 version (they MAY have meant Board meetings, but it doesn't say that although it infers it later), quorum (51% of membership vs "by the members present"), little stuff like Sergeant and Arms and Chairman of the Board in the 1998 version but not in the 1995 version, and a big item - the original Bylaws are silent on Board meeting attendance, where the 1998 version notes clearly "The meeting shall be closed to the general membership."
The Board discussed the way forward over two meetings - we searched for any records from any current or past resident and found almost nothing. Accordingly, I volunteered to rewrite (with another volunteer) the Bylaws. The entire Board agreed we should only modify them where there was a legal reason (i.e. excluding members from attending Board meetings), or because something in the 1998 version was grossly inaccurate or uncharacteristic of common accepted Bylaws (i.e. there being positions of Sergeant at Arms or Chairman positions), or to repair language issues. In other words, given the lack of records circumstances, try and maintain the tone of the original and the rewrite, but fix the things that needed to be fixed.
There are a few areas where I could use your input:
1. with 189 single family homes of demographically older residents, what is a good number of bodies for a Board?
2. I would like to specify that only Officers can be on banking authorization lists
3. Should the new Bylaws allow modification by a percentage of the Board, or of the Membership (almost no one attends and remember, this is a VOLUNTARY association (dues are voluntary) and mandatory CCRs
4. What about the quorum requirements? Since so few attend the annual meeting, is it best to simply allow a majority vote of those attending?
5. Should I call out the interval for Board meetings? Having so few as quarterly has allowed this neighborhood to drift off topic and focus - monthly is a way better solution, I think.
6. The 1998 version calls out only the ACC (it is in the CCRs) and an audit committee - should I add in things like Social, Beautification, etc, (we have all of these) that might keep future Boards focused?
7. Should the Bylaws contain reference to Roberts Rules of Order?
8. Anything else you feel is warranted in our circumstances.
Thanks, as always!
Recall my HOA, of which I am a Board member and Secretary, lost all records from just after the formation (1995) until 2015 - apparently, the President at the time died suddenly and his home was cleared/cleaned by relatives very quickly. Apparently, the Association had been operating under a set of Bylaws dated 1998 - the original Bylaws from the developer were dated 1995. There is no record of the original Bylaws being modified - the 1998 version, according to some of the original residents, "just appeared."
Neither the original Bylaws, nor the 1998 version are noteworthy in any way - differences in the number of Board members (3 with allowance to increase to 10 "from time to time" via a bylaws amendment vs 5-9), approval criteria of future Bylaws (by the Board vs by 3/5 of the community at an annual meeting), annual meetings in original and annual and quarterly meetings in the 1998 version (they MAY have meant Board meetings, but it doesn't say that although it infers it later), quorum (51% of membership vs "by the members present"), little stuff like Sergeant and Arms and Chairman of the Board in the 1998 version but not in the 1995 version, and a big item - the original Bylaws are silent on Board meeting attendance, where the 1998 version notes clearly "The meeting shall be closed to the general membership."
The Board discussed the way forward over two meetings - we searched for any records from any current or past resident and found almost nothing. Accordingly, I volunteered to rewrite (with another volunteer) the Bylaws. The entire Board agreed we should only modify them where there was a legal reason (i.e. excluding members from attending Board meetings), or because something in the 1998 version was grossly inaccurate or uncharacteristic of common accepted Bylaws (i.e. there being positions of Sergeant at Arms or Chairman positions), or to repair language issues. In other words, given the lack of records circumstances, try and maintain the tone of the original and the rewrite, but fix the things that needed to be fixed.
There are a few areas where I could use your input:
1. with 189 single family homes of demographically older residents, what is a good number of bodies for a Board?
2. I would like to specify that only Officers can be on banking authorization lists
3. Should the new Bylaws allow modification by a percentage of the Board, or of the Membership (almost no one attends and remember, this is a VOLUNTARY association (dues are voluntary) and mandatory CCRs
4. What about the quorum requirements? Since so few attend the annual meeting, is it best to simply allow a majority vote of those attending?
5. Should I call out the interval for Board meetings? Having so few as quarterly has allowed this neighborhood to drift off topic and focus - monthly is a way better solution, I think.
6. The 1998 version calls out only the ACC (it is in the CCRs) and an audit committee - should I add in things like Social, Beautification, etc, (we have all of these) that might keep future Boards focused?
7. Should the Bylaws contain reference to Roberts Rules of Order?
8. Anything else you feel is warranted in our circumstances.
Thanks, as always!