AdamD1 (Indiana)
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Posts: 179
Posted:
We are an entirely new Board of Directors after years of inaction by previous Boards which almost lead us into receivership last summer. We (a few volunteers and myself) saved the homeowners from that by going door-to-door collecting proxies from hundreds of homeowners (440 single family home subdivision). The past Boards contracted services from their friends (many of whom are local law enforcement). There was never any bidding, and we were being charged for excess services at a high rate.
The new Board got all new contracts with new vendors for our few expenses (attorney, insurance, property manager, etc.) however we left the 2017 lawn care contract in place, despite it being tied to the last Board and was easy cash (paid too much and they covered areas outside of HOA owned/maintained common areas). That contract expired this past fall as the landscaping season ended. The "contract" literally was a one sentence signed document indicating the lawn care provider will continue mowing the subdivision as per the year prior. This was authorized by the signed by the last property manager and the lawn care provider (both friends) since we didn't even have a Board at the time (previous Board had all resigned). We do not even have documentation of the original contract.
Fast forward to this month: a Board member met with our property manager and the former lawn care provider to do a drive though of our subdivision where the Board member got a better understanding of all the excess areas that had been serviced by the lawn care provider for years. The Board member indicated we will look for three bids for this season and left it at that.
Yesterday, the former lawn care provider, unbeknownst to the property manager or the Board, mowed the subdivision and will be charging us for this despite no contract being in place and no one authorizing him to do so.
I brought this to the attention of our property manager and indicated that no check should be issued to the lawn care provider until this is discussed at the next Board meeting (May 1). He replied with this message.....
"Hello, I have been made aware that the common areas have been mowed by LAWN CARE PROVIDER and there is some hesitation in paying him because there is no contract. Assuming this is accurate, please consider the following. If this is not accurate, disregard it!
We are already one week past when every other account of ours has received the 1st mow, it’s just that time and it needs to be done.
I believe the task of securing a vendor was on a board member and that has not been done. That’s fine, but we still need to keep the common areas up and the property looking good, that means somebody has to mow it. I see nobody better than FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER. He has been with the community for years, the pricing very reasonable and he does a good job. Why would we not pay him per mow until something is secured whether he gets the contract or not? It’s a win for everybody.
I have managed properties before that of been in this position and every client has always had the property maintained outside of a contract by some vendor, paid per mow. Before I go to much deeper into this, I am asking you to consider paying FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER and his crew per mow until the board secures who they would like to do the work. If you are refuse please let me know so I can move forward from there.
One other piece of information I would like you to consider is good landscaping companies already have their entire season and schedules filled. I’m not saying it’s impossible to add your account or anything, but we signed all of our landscaping contracts while snow was still on the ground to secure good vendors. I urge you all Secure something ASAP.
Looking forward to the direction you would like to go with FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER."
Property manager is former cop and former lawn care provider is currently law enforcement, hence their closeness.
How would you proceed?
The new Board got all new contracts with new vendors for our few expenses (attorney, insurance, property manager, etc.) however we left the 2017 lawn care contract in place, despite it being tied to the last Board and was easy cash (paid too much and they covered areas outside of HOA owned/maintained common areas). That contract expired this past fall as the landscaping season ended. The "contract" literally was a one sentence signed document indicating the lawn care provider will continue mowing the subdivision as per the year prior. This was authorized by the signed by the last property manager and the lawn care provider (both friends) since we didn't even have a Board at the time (previous Board had all resigned). We do not even have documentation of the original contract.
Fast forward to this month: a Board member met with our property manager and the former lawn care provider to do a drive though of our subdivision where the Board member got a better understanding of all the excess areas that had been serviced by the lawn care provider for years. The Board member indicated we will look for three bids for this season and left it at that.
Yesterday, the former lawn care provider, unbeknownst to the property manager or the Board, mowed the subdivision and will be charging us for this despite no contract being in place and no one authorizing him to do so.
I brought this to the attention of our property manager and indicated that no check should be issued to the lawn care provider until this is discussed at the next Board meeting (May 1). He replied with this message.....
"Hello, I have been made aware that the common areas have been mowed by LAWN CARE PROVIDER and there is some hesitation in paying him because there is no contract. Assuming this is accurate, please consider the following. If this is not accurate, disregard it!
We are already one week past when every other account of ours has received the 1st mow, it’s just that time and it needs to be done.
I believe the task of securing a vendor was on a board member and that has not been done. That’s fine, but we still need to keep the common areas up and the property looking good, that means somebody has to mow it. I see nobody better than FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER. He has been with the community for years, the pricing very reasonable and he does a good job. Why would we not pay him per mow until something is secured whether he gets the contract or not? It’s a win for everybody.
I have managed properties before that of been in this position and every client has always had the property maintained outside of a contract by some vendor, paid per mow. Before I go to much deeper into this, I am asking you to consider paying FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER and his crew per mow until the board secures who they would like to do the work. If you are refuse please let me know so I can move forward from there.
One other piece of information I would like you to consider is good landscaping companies already have their entire season and schedules filled. I’m not saying it’s impossible to add your account or anything, but we signed all of our landscaping contracts while snow was still on the ground to secure good vendors. I urge you all Secure something ASAP.
Looking forward to the direction you would like to go with FORMER LAWN CARE PROVIDER."
Property manager is former cop and former lawn care provider is currently law enforcement, hence their closeness.
How would you proceed?