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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Just an idea and wanted to see what others think. I feel it would be beneficial to add a column noting the STATE for each poster. Because all laws vary by each State this would help narrow down on the main page which state is being represented for the question and allow those responding to note better which comments they may have more knowledge and experience. Your thoughts???
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Not against it.

However, the State is identified underneath the name.
Therefore, the ability to know the State the OP is from (as well as the respondents) is already available.

GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
For me it wouldn't matter. I click on all threads with unread posts and would continue to do so regardless of what state each OP was from. I suppose it might save some people some time.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
With Geno, I tend to read almost all.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
With Geno, I tend to read almost all.
ArtL1 (Florida)
Posts: 140
Posted:
A better recommendation would be for people to re-read their posts before hitting submit...or even better, enable editing of posts (by the poster) after the post has been submitted, so once they realize what they posted is gibberish, they can try to fix it.

I get frustrated trying to read some posts here, usually initial ones, where the person is either so mad they're not thinking straight (not typing all the words they're thinking) or they just have such horrible communication skills that they can't put together complete sentences, and we have to guess what they're actually trying to say.

Am I the only one?

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ArtL1 on 03/07/2018 3:13 PM
A better recommendation would be for people to re-read their posts before hitting submit...or even better, enable editing of posts (by the poster) after the post has been submitted, so once they realize what they posted is gibberish, they can try to fix it.

I get frustrated trying to read some posts here, usually initial ones, where the person is either so mad they're not thinking straight (not typing all the words they're thinking) or they just have such horrible communication skills that they can't put together complete sentences, and we have to guess what they're actually trying to say.

Am I the only one?


Nope! It's less troublesome to say what you mean and mean what you say - and keep an open mind. I think a lot of this happens because people have already made up their mind and want to find someone to agree with them. I find a wee bit of extra information helps craft a more thoughtful answer, especially if people are talking about suing someone. Sometimes that's necessary, but why not slow down a bit and think things all the way through? Otherwise, you'll start something you can't finish.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I get very frustrated with some of the writing. I can't always tell if it's poor writing skills or poor typing skills. Sometimes they just don't know HOA lingo.

(I'm sure others get frustrated with my too-frequent double submissions!)
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SheliaH on 03/07/2018 3:29 PM
Posted By ArtL1 on 03/07/2018 3:13 PM
A better recommendation would be for people to re-read their posts before hitting submit...or even better, enable editing of posts (by the poster) after the post has been submitted, so once they realize what they posted is gibberish, they can try to fix it.

I get frustrated trying to read some posts here, usually initial ones, where the person is either so mad they're not thinking straight (not typing all the words they're thinking) or they just have such horrible communication skills that they can't put together complete sentences, and we have to guess what they're actually trying to say.

Am I the only one?



Nope! It's less troublesome to say what you mean and mean what you say - and keep an open mind. I think a lot of this happens because people have already made up their mind and want to find someone to agree with them. I find a wee bit of extra information helps craft a more thoughtful answer, especially if people are talking about suing someone. Sometimes that's necessary, but why not slow down a bit and think things all the way through? Otherwise, you'll start something you can't finish.

It is called shopping for an answer you want.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SheliaH on 03/07/2018 3:29 PM
Posted By ArtL1 on 03/07/2018 3:13 PM
A better recommendation would be for people to re-read their posts before hitting submit...or even better, enable editing of posts (by the poster) after the post has been submitted, so once they realize what they posted is gibberish, they can try to fix it.

I get frustrated trying to read some posts here, usually initial ones, where the person is either so mad they're not thinking straight (not typing all the words they're thinking) or they just have such horrible communication skills that they can't put together complete sentences, and we have to guess what they're actually trying to say.

Am I the only one?



Nope! It's less troublesome to say what you mean and mean what you say - and keep an open mind. I think a lot of this happens because people have already made up their mind and want to find someone to agree with them. I find a wee bit of extra information helps craft a more thoughtful answer, especially if people are talking about suing someone. Sometimes that's necessary, but why not slow down a bit and think things all the way through? Otherwise, you'll start something you can't finish.

It is called shopping for an answer you want.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
To me, posting that you need to look at your State's laws is a given. We can only guide you with our advice/experience. If your going to follow through, then you should realize there is going to be differences. No HOA is alike or situation. So to keep posting "That is XXX state that isn't XXX state" is kind irrelevant.

My pet peeve is someone calling out my "Former President" and taking it personally. If it offends you or generates anger/bias because you see it, then it's your problem. I am identifying myself simply as someone who has been President of a HOA. Meaning I have been to the "Mountain top" and willing to bring a bit of advice from there. How many board members current or former do you know willing to do so?

I do though enjoy those who post in the worst broken English. Translating has always been interesting...

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I have to disagree with part of what Melissa wrote.

Those who read these but do not post, and new members of HOAs, and even board members do NOT take as a "given" they must read their state's laws about HOAs or, if none, their state laws about corporations (if they're incorporated and most are). So I always advise it even though I know nothing about most states's statutes. We, imo, should write not only to reply to particular questions, but for our silent observers who're trying to learn.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MelissaP1 on 03/07/2018 4:14 PM

I am identifying myself simply as someone who has been President of a HOA. Meaning I have been to the "Mountain top" and willing to bring a bit of advice from there. How many board members current or former do you know willing to do so?

Well, to start with, I would say most of the regular posters on this forum.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I've been prez, too, along with holding other HOA positions, including chair of our executive committee re: our construction defect lawsuit.

Unfortunately, we now have a president who DOES believe she's on the "mountain top." She'd be the last person who I'd accept "advice" from. She does not grasp that non-profits, at least in CA are governed by Boards, not bullied by presidents.

In Melissa's case, ask her anything about Alabama HOA or corporations law and see what you receive in reply.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
And this is another reason... Personal attacks on other posters who are trying to help others... May I recommend we stop? or will the next post say "I disagree with Melissa etc..."?

Former HOA President
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
It's not a personal attack to point out that someone is objectively wrong 1/3 of the time.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
And all FREE advice isn't? It is what it is... reading more into it is your problem....

Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Free advice is often worth what you paid for it....
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
It seems like state on front page is way down the list of things this site needs:
1) edit function - every other forum I frequent has this.
2) reputation function - some sites have the ability to upvote or downvote posts or posters. Those votes get compiled into a reputation score. That allows newbies to the site to see who's advice they might want to take with a grain of salt and who is highly thought of.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
It seems like state on front page is way down the list of things this site needs:
1) edit function - every other forum I frequent has this.
2) reputation function - some sites have the ability to upvote or downvote posts or posters. Those votes get compiled into a reputation score. That allows newbies to the site to see who's advice they might want to take with a grain of salt and who is highly thought of.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
It seems like state on front page is way down the list of things this site needs:
1) edit function - every other forum I frequent has this.
2) reputation function - some sites have the ability to upvote or downvote posts or posters. Those votes get compiled into a reputation score. That allows newbies to the site to see who's advice they might want to take with a grain of salt and who is highly thought of.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 03/06/2018 11:37 PM
Not against it.

However, the State is identified underneath the name.
Therefore, the ability to know the State the OP is from (as well as the respondents) is already available.


Yes ... but only after the link is clicked and you leave the main page. Would be nice if the State was also underneath the OP’s name on the main page.

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