Safety &Securiy of condo bldg

Recently we had a burglary and sexual assault in our bldg.
BOD made a decision of replacing keys and putting audio
We have two doors they don’t want to lock first door.
How can we make them to take this measurament

A little unclear. You have 2 people who don't want to lock the front door or the front door does not lock on 2 doors? You may want to make sure this isn't a fire/emergency restriction for your area. Are the doors broken? What are reasons that may be why they are kept that way?

Meral wrote: "We have two doors they don’t want to lock first door." Are both of those doors that lead outside of your building? Are they in two different parts of your building? Or do both lead to the same exterior place--maybe a sidewalk?

I live in a condo building too, and all of our doors to the public sidewalks are locked. Many are only locked on the outside--we can't come in them. They aren't locked from the inside because they are fire exits.

We have only three doors that enter the two buildings from the public sidewalk. Two are entered with a fob, and one with a key. Emergency entities have access to lockboxes on the exterior of the buildings to enter them.

What is the "audio" that the Board will have installed? A call box of some kind?

We have an old buzzer they want use same 70 yrs old wires to make audio intercom only for security.
Now everry bldg installing audio video intercom so unit owner can see who is at the door before they let them in.
Isn’t that more security to prevent intruders? İnstead of audio intercom only

sorry I can't be more help, an there are very few posters here who live in multi-story condo buildings. Is yours an elevator building, Meral? How many units are in your building?

Ours is and we're in the middle of an urban setting with a park across our side street that has disreputable people in it sometimes.

We have two pedestrian entrances, one outside of each building, which have only audio access. It allows visitors into our lobbies when the resident answers their phone and basically buzzes them up tho' the elevator will only go to the floor of the resident.

I cannot say how much it would cost for you to move your buzz system from inside the vestibule to the exterior of the building. I don't think that it's only 5' tells you much. I'm afraid you're going to have to get other neighbors to join you to push for a different buzz system. As another poster suggested, maybe get a group of owners together to research the cost and present it to your board of directors??

Definetly, other suggestions taken into consideration.
Yes we are searching other estimates.
Bod also changing locks of entrance as I said.
Also thinking of putting cameras on hallways.
Bod wants to give 2 entrance keys to unitowners.
If they loose keys they want to charge $50.- for $20.- keys
We have a non-profit assoc.
I am not sure they can do that legally, making profit??
Also in the by-laws there is nothing says bod charges unitowners?
It only says adopts rules and regulation.

Completely legal. And probably not enough in any case. How much will it cost to re-key if somebody loses their keys on the sidewalk? Or their purse is snatched with keys and address inside? Could be thousands. A Key card system is much better.

In some of your recent responses, you’ve referred to money. You want certain things to better secure the building, which I understand, but all this costs MONEY. You said you’re in an old building, so it may be that other things have to take priority. Have you ever taken a look at your condo’s budget? Do you have a problem with delinquent accounts? How is your reserve budget doing? If you have problems in those areas, it could explain why the board can’t do some of the things you want.

And by the way, having keys made for 23 units probably isn’t cheap, especially if everyone will get two sets – if someone loses the key, a replacement has to be made or the lock has to be rekeyed. That’s not necessarily cheap either, so why are you yelling about the association making a profit???? When was the last time YOU called in a locksmith?

This is why your statement “the bylaws say nothing about the board charging unit owners - only adopting rules and regulations” doesn’t make sense. Do you think it’s ok for people to just use their keys any way they want and not deal with consequences if they get stolen?? If people don’t want to spend $50 to replace a key, maybe they’ll take steps to secure them. That’s a reasonable rule in my book and unless your association has a money making machine somewhere, you may need more than just updating a security system (thus, my earlier suggestion about reminding residents to take note and report suspicious people hanging around the building).

As I said earlier, if money is an issue, perhaps you can help research equally effective, but less expensive options – have you offered your services to the board? If not, why not?

Not really known how he entered, no key probably forving the door
28 years we did not have any break-in
Times are changing!! We also try to educate too

Yes Key card definitely but they object to that

Obviously you have some issues, not yelling anybody.
Just concerned. Yes I serve on the 10 yrs as a treasurer.
Yes I helped researched keyless entry, they thought it is not safe.
Also using 1/2 of the reserve for lock and audio and camera is irresponsible in my opunion, should be
special assessment..