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Posted By TimM11 on 01/25/2018 6:29 AM
Posted By MelissaP1 on 01/24/2018 8:20 PM
First off, you do NOT start changing your HOA from a third party. You start by participation and majority votes. Don't like your board? Vote them out by majority vote. Follow the rules your so dead set on having everyone else follow.
Ideally, no, but it sounds like the OP's HOA is beyond that point, based on what they described. If they're not willing to have meetings, not responding to attorney letters, etc., then they need to take things to the next level.
I agree, it is well beyond changing from within. But Melissa does have a very good point, do you really think people will step up and volunteer after your current board has created such a mess? So always think about this if you want to vote them out. 67% as most states is very difficult to get and people get scared when they have to sign that recall petition, signers know Board members could use the list of signatures as a way to see who is siding with them and who is not and possibly even suspend their voting rights. People may say they will volunteer but once they understand the amount of responsibility it is and liability of actions, people back out. In the end, the same people can get reelected if no nominations are coming from the floor. You must try to change them and change it for future boards that volunteer.
If you do see people "really" willing to volunteer then given what you state, on the information you have provided the only way I see is court action but I would take a big pause. I'm surprised the homeowners attorney did not send a followup letter of demand for records within in 30 days of the original. It must be hand delivered or certified mailer to the HOA attorney and the HOA president. By waiting so many months you must now probably start over with the demand letter unless it was certified or has a paper trail with signatures stating delivery.
I would advise keeping a copy of all communication. I mean everything, even a scan of the envelopes. Even if it's hearsay, the records demand will confirm or deny hearsay. I would also advise from going to court too early. The case must be built and it starts with the demand letter, it takes months. The complaint in court must be thorough with multiple counts of breach of duty, even if you don't have all the facts, it should still be in the complaint and once the records are given, it will be amended and grow by a considerable amount. Many have had success but it usually gets settled before litigation. Even a simple records demand case will have a court paper trail of 400-600 pages. Courts are jammed packed with HOA matters. And remember even if you win, you'll only recover attorney's fee's and the HOA doesn't even have to pay you back, judgements are not liens.
Also, get in touch with Ombudsman and start making complaints while court proceedings play out, the failure of notices, bad elections, and anything that falls within the jurisdiction of the Ombudsman you can file it. Ombudsman will not interpret your ByLaws or covenants but lack of proper governing procedures they will respond, just put everything you can, Ombudsman will pick out what falls within their power. Hit them from all sides, potential buyers must be notified of lawsuits, that will reduce home values right away. Keep the pressure on the board members. Remember they are still in control, you must take that control from them by changing them and holding them accountable.
Also, try not to post too many details on this forum as you never know when the people you are suing will be looking here. What you describe is very common.