GaryH8 (Florida)
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I am involved with an HOA in a very small community. Under 20 places. It hasn't been turned over yet but hopefully that occurs in the next month or so. The developer still controls the HOA but all lots have been sold.
One member feels they have been singled out and conspired against. Their lawyer went the mediate route but there was a problem with the delivery and acceptance of the certified letter and the 20 days have passed. Not sure who signed (not an employee or family member) for it but the letter sat over the holidays at the HOA office for > 20 days. Their lawyer is now proceeding with suing and sounds like they were never interested in mediating. Just a formality in the process apparently.
The HOA takes the stand that this member was not singled out. They were the only member who was pursued by the HOA as they were the only one building non-permitted structures. They build something without a county permit and without requesting authorization from the BOD/ARB, they get asked to take it down and they say they are getting singled out. Neighbors have built pools, small additions and also never applied for ARB approval but were never pursed by the HOA as they were clearly permitted within the Covenants. Earlier this year, this same member starting building another structure (their 3rd structure, 2nd that was against the Covenants) that clearly did not comply with the Covenants and were issued a Cease and Desist and remove letter from the HOA's lawyer. No county permit was applied for before building either and it was clearly required. Neighbors called the County. The county also gave him a number of violation notices regarding the structure and was never issued a permit. Approx. 1 month after starting to build this structure, the member convinced a single member of the BOD who lives in the small community to a sign a letter stating that his structure is permitted citing 2 reasons. 1/ that this type of structure was permitted and 2/ that he had a permit from the County. Yes, this basic type of structure is permitted in the community but he was clearly building it in a way that is 100% not permitted in the Covenants AND he was building it on an easement/common property and he did not have a county permit as they wouldn't let him build it on an easement either).
4 days after the HOA BOD realized that one of their directors individually signed an authorization letter confirming that he can build the structure, the HOA BOD in it's entirety wrote a letter with all of them signing it, rescinding any sort of authorization for his structure. They stated that the structure clearly did not meet the restrictions in the Covenants however, should the member submit new plans to the HOA BOD/ARB that met the restrictions and requirements in the Covenants and if he obtained a permit from the County, then they would provide approval for their structure assuming it met the criteria in the Covenants.
It seems clear to me that they will lose but the authorization letter that the single Director of the HOA wrote is certainly problematic, even though the Covenants clearly state the member must submit an application to the ARB which must contain a minimum of 3 people and the authorization was rescinded in a reasonable amount of time and no further work was done during that time. Either way, what I am curious about, is what is the potential financial impact on the HOA and/or the developer should the member win their case? How might this affect turnover? Only a very small amount of work was ever done on this structure (please don't ask what the structure is, I don't think it is relevant and may hurt privacy). Perhaps $2,000 worth of work. Total value of the project might be $6,000-10,000 at the maximum.
Any input would be appreciated. Cheers!
One member feels they have been singled out and conspired against. Their lawyer went the mediate route but there was a problem with the delivery and acceptance of the certified letter and the 20 days have passed. Not sure who signed (not an employee or family member) for it but the letter sat over the holidays at the HOA office for > 20 days. Their lawyer is now proceeding with suing and sounds like they were never interested in mediating. Just a formality in the process apparently.
The HOA takes the stand that this member was not singled out. They were the only member who was pursued by the HOA as they were the only one building non-permitted structures. They build something without a county permit and without requesting authorization from the BOD/ARB, they get asked to take it down and they say they are getting singled out. Neighbors have built pools, small additions and also never applied for ARB approval but were never pursed by the HOA as they were clearly permitted within the Covenants. Earlier this year, this same member starting building another structure (their 3rd structure, 2nd that was against the Covenants) that clearly did not comply with the Covenants and were issued a Cease and Desist and remove letter from the HOA's lawyer. No county permit was applied for before building either and it was clearly required. Neighbors called the County. The county also gave him a number of violation notices regarding the structure and was never issued a permit. Approx. 1 month after starting to build this structure, the member convinced a single member of the BOD who lives in the small community to a sign a letter stating that his structure is permitted citing 2 reasons. 1/ that this type of structure was permitted and 2/ that he had a permit from the County. Yes, this basic type of structure is permitted in the community but he was clearly building it in a way that is 100% not permitted in the Covenants AND he was building it on an easement/common property and he did not have a county permit as they wouldn't let him build it on an easement either).
4 days after the HOA BOD realized that one of their directors individually signed an authorization letter confirming that he can build the structure, the HOA BOD in it's entirety wrote a letter with all of them signing it, rescinding any sort of authorization for his structure. They stated that the structure clearly did not meet the restrictions in the Covenants however, should the member submit new plans to the HOA BOD/ARB that met the restrictions and requirements in the Covenants and if he obtained a permit from the County, then they would provide approval for their structure assuming it met the criteria in the Covenants.
It seems clear to me that they will lose but the authorization letter that the single Director of the HOA wrote is certainly problematic, even though the Covenants clearly state the member must submit an application to the ARB which must contain a minimum of 3 people and the authorization was rescinded in a reasonable amount of time and no further work was done during that time. Either way, what I am curious about, is what is the potential financial impact on the HOA and/or the developer should the member win their case? How might this affect turnover? Only a very small amount of work was ever done on this structure (please don't ask what the structure is, I don't think it is relevant and may hurt privacy). Perhaps $2,000 worth of work. Total value of the project might be $6,000-10,000 at the maximum.
Any input would be appreciated. Cheers!