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HarryJ1 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
We live in Florida and follow FL 720 in allowing proxies for our annual meetings. Our limited proxy form states that if the owner/member does not designate a proxy by name, the proxy goes to the Secretary of the HOA. Does anyone know whether there is a general rule on how to handle such cases where the owner/member of an HOA does not name a proxy? Should that proxy only be used to establish a quorum, and not for voting in election of the Board of Directors? Or should, as we do, the proxy vote be given to an officer of the HOA?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Harry

It is quite common for a BOD to name itself or BOD Officer especially those looking to confuse and stay in power. Not right maybe but quite common.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
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There are differences in FL between General Proxy and Limited Proxy. A limited proxy form is supposed to state what the items being voted on are and how the individual given the proxy is to vote. A general proxy gives the individual the option to vote as they want. This is per: http://myfloridalicense.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2039/~/what-is-the-difference-between-a-general-proxy-and-a-limited-proxy%3F

The State Statute under 720 notes:

(8) PROXY VOTING.—The members have the right, unless otherwise provided in this subsection or in the governing documents, to vote in person or by proxy.
(a) To be valid, a proxy must be dated, must state the date, time, and place of the meeting for which it was given, and must be signed by the authorized person who executed the proxy. A proxy is effective only for the specific meeting for which it was originally given, as the meeting may lawfully be adjourned and reconvened from time to time, and automatically expires 90 days after the date of the meeting for which it was originally given. A proxy is revocable at any time at the pleasure of the person who executes it. If the proxy form expressly so provides, any proxy holder may appoint, in writing, a substitute to act in his or her place.
(b) If the governing documents permit voting by secret ballot by members who are not in attendance at a meeting of the members for the election of directors, such ballots must be placed in an inner envelope with no identifying markings and mailed or delivered to the association in an outer envelope bearing identifying information reflecting the name of the member, the lot or parcel for which the vote is being cast, and the signature of the lot or parcel owner casting that ballot. If the eligibility of the member to vote is confirmed and no other ballot has been submitted for that lot or parcel, the inner envelope shall be removed from the outer envelope bearing the identification information, placed with the ballots which were personally cast, and opened when the ballots are counted. If more than one ballot is submitted for a lot or parcel, the ballots for that lot or parcel shall be disqualified. Any vote by ballot received after the closing of the balloting may not be considered.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Harry

Not sure what you are asking but we had a recent discussion on here about a proxy submitted with no proxy holder named or the person named not in attendance. The belief was the proxy could not be used for any reason including establishing a quorum.

A proxy stating that unless there is another proxy holder named, an Officer of the Corporation (such as the Secretary of the BOD) is the proxy holder is legal and quite common. This proxy could be used for everything.

Hope I covered what you wanted to know.
ArtL1 (Florida)
Posts: 140
Posted:
A correctly drafted limited proxy includes explicit voting instructions on specific issues. If your proxy form doesn't have that, it's a general proxy. If it calls itself a limited proxy (or if your docs only allow limited proxies), and lacks voting instructions on specific issues, it's only usable as an attendance proxy for purposes of making quorum. If the board member named as the default proxyholder tries to vote on any issue using such proxies, cry foul.

http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/lsc/documents/GeneralInformationAboutProxies.Master04.16.2014.pdf

http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/lsc/documents/co-6000-7samplelimitedproxy62309.pdf
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
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Posted By HarryJ1 on 12/06/2017 11:11 AM
We live in Florida and follow FL 720 in allowing proxies for our annual meetings. Our limited proxy form states that if the owner/member does not designate a proxy by name, the proxy goes to the Secretary of the HOA. Does anyone know whether there is a general rule on how to handle such cases where the owner/member of an HOA does not name a proxy? Should that proxy only be used to establish a quorum, and not for voting in election of the Board of Directors? Or should, as we do, the proxy vote be given to an officer of the HOA?

I've seen general proxies that say "this proxy will be used to count towards a quorum", and I've seen limited proxies with a separate checkbox that says, "Check here to have this proxy count towards a quorum at the meeting".

I would say a proxy should have someone named, even if it's by default the president or the secretary (or anyone else for that matter).
AmyA1 (Washington)
Posts: 101
Posted:
Our Bylaws state that Members can only hold 2 proxies. To take it out of the Board's hands we stated on the proxy "If no proxy is named, or my proxy is not present at the meeting, I authorize (HOA Name) Voting Committee to appoint a proxy on my behalf."
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Our proxies give the owner two options - (1) designate someone to attend the meeting and vote on his/her behalf or (2) use the proxy to create a quorum and designate the Board president to vote on his/her behalf. People can also nominate themselves or another owner to serve on the board. If a proxy is submitted, but the owner attends the meeting after all, it will be cancelled and he/she can cast a vote as usual. We also print these instructions on the annual meeting notice.

You may want to look at your documents and the language of your current proxy to see how it should be formatted, so people will know exactly what they're authorizing. Otherwise, it might be best to simply use it to establish quorum - if people want to use it to vote for someone, they need to read the instructions and follow them.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By SheliaH on 12/19/2017 8:02 AM
Our proxies give the owner two options - (1) designate someone to attend the meeting and vote on his/her behalf or (2) use the proxy to create a quorum and designate the Board president to vote on his/her behalf. People can also nominate themselves or another owner to serve on the board. If a proxy is submitted, but the owner attends the meeting after all, it will be cancelled and he/she can cast a vote as usual. We also print these instructions on the annual meeting notice.

You may want to look at your documents and the language of your current proxy to see how it should be formatted, so people will know exactly what they're authorizing. Otherwise, it might be best to simply use it to establish quorum - if people want to use it to vote for someone, they need to read the instructions and follow them.

Your proxy may say that but that does not mean one cannot turn in a different legal proxy. The last dated proxy is the one that counts.

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